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Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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When I see these charts I definitely don’t want to be that sweating guy in grid operator’s control room desperately trying to turn off some solar parks to stabilize the grid. Solar generation goes from nothing at night to 80+% during daytime. Ouch.

Reminds me of the video of somebody synchronizing a small hydro power plant to the grid. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xGQxSJmadm0

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But on the right track. We're building the solar equivalent of the total cumulative nuclear capacity germany has ever build every 3 years. If we manage to hold off regressive forces that are trying to derail the current trajectory with whataboutism of nuclear and fusion, we might actually make it to CO2 neutrality in a reasonable timeframe.

Shutting off nuclear power while commissioning new coal and gas plants is anything but being on the right track.

Nuclear reactors were EOL and not even their owners wanted to run them any longer. So please stop spreading your misleading take.

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Germany build the equivalent solar-capacity to the sum of every nuclear reactor it ever operated in the last 3 years.

Our _green_ minister of the economy and energy continued running the reactors even past their agreed run-time because the Ukraine war happened, but they simply reached end-of-life.

So we've replaced the small amount of nuclear we had with renewables already. Now you might ask why we don't build new ones to move away from fossil fuels faster. But why should you? It's impossible to argue that it would be economical given this chart:[1]

1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cost_of_electricity_by_source#...

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it obviously wrong? During a duration of time it is okay so say an amount of energy (MWh) was produced, right?

Because it's a nonsensically small number; and it's contradicted with the graph immediately below it, that shows larger amounts of energy (MWh) generated in individual hours, than the supposed figure for the entire week. The peaks on the graph are ~40,000 MWh/hour sustained over multiple hours (eyeballing it). The amount generated in the entire week can't be 17,000 MWh, a number smaller than that. (For anyone unclear…

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Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still better than being a nuclear reactor operator.

Why? I would expect it to be comparatively chill, as it should be running mostly constant and reliable?

Unless, of course, you have to shut down your nuclear plant because your cooling water is too warm during the summer months:

https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/warming-rivers-threa...

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But on the right track. We're building the solar equivalent of the total cumulative nuclear capacity germany has ever build every 3 years. If we manage to hold off regressive forces that are trying to derail the current trajectory with whataboutism of nuclear and fusion, we might actually make it to CO2 neutrality in a reasonable timeframe.

Shutting off nuclear power while commissioning new coal and gas plants is anything but being on the right track.

There are no new coal plants, instead coal plants are scheduled for shutdown or conversion.

New gas plants are required to make use of gas as a storage medium one way or another.

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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It's currently 13:20 and sunny, Germany is at 183g/gCO2eq, not good.

Imagine how low CO2 levels would be if nuclear plants were online...

Wouldn't change much if any at all. Nuclear power was only less than 6% of total energy production in 2022 already.

https://de.statista.com/statistik/daten/studie/29295/umfrage...

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

But on the right track. We're building the solar equivalent of the total cumulative nuclear capacity germany has ever build every 3 years. If we manage to hold off regressive forces that are trying to derail the current trajectory with whataboutism of nuclear and fusion, we might actually make it to CO2 neutrality in a reasonable timeframe.

Your solar doesn't work well in winter, and in night. At this point it's more important to build energy storage to drive down the CO2. > If we manage to hold off regressive forces that are trying to derail the current trajectory with whataboutism of nuclear Nuclear already reached the target. It's not some "whataboutism".

At night, we don't really need that much electricity. In German winters, we have a lot of wind energy instead.

Re: Germany solar power output jumps to record highs

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- "During the week to May 13, Germany's solar farms produced 17,531 megawatt hours (MWh) of electricity, according to data from LSEG," This is an obviously wrong number, and I'm not even sure how they accomplished such a specifically weird mistake. "Mean of 17,351 MW" would be plausible. That's different by a factor of 168.

Why is it obviously wrong? During a duration of time it is okay so say an amount of energy (MWh) was produced, right?

Yes, the units are correct. But currently Germany is generating 33 GW of solar power (according to electricity maps). Therefore the 17GWh is generated after 0.5 hrs. For a whole week this value is way too low, even if it was a cloudy week (which it wasn't).
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