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California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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Re: California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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Actually yes, I did the math a few months ago and if you have a gas generator such as [1], you can produce electricity from PG&E's gas for cheaper than PG&E's own electrical rates. Details: The generator linked below can produce 17 kWh of electricity by burning 307 cubic feet of natural gas. That translates to 3.07 therms of gas, and looking at my bill PG&E charges around $2.3 / therm, so the generator would produce…

I hate to be that guy, but instead of running a generator why not deploy rooftop solar? If we’re already ignoring upfront costs it generates your electricity for zero dollars.

be that guy. if you've got the space for it it's definitely under consideration but there's only so many dollars to spend on things. solar plus batteries is the dream but I'm not made of money. Unfortunately part of these changes actually disincentivzes paying for solar which is just so aggravating. nationalizing pg&e when?

Re: California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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I feel deceived for installing a roof-top solar. Having got one to help CA go solar, it is now becoming a burden as I will be paying more in monthly bills. PGE has already reduced the true-up they pay for generating more electricity, this one is another nail in the coffin.

that's a result of PG&E fucking us consumers on the deal.

Re: California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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Where is the incentive for everyone to not mine bitcoins?

I have solar, and it's mostly (90%) not being utilized and sent back (I overspecced when NEM 3.0 was about to hit). Prior to this, it made sense to sell it back to PG&E. Now I'm looking for uses to only sell back what it makes sense to sell back. Obviously transitioning gas therms and replacing with electric is underway (for heating/cooking), as well as charging an EV but there will likely still be excess. So mining…

where are you located? there's a company doing installs in San Diego doing exactly that

Re: California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

#56

What is stopping low income people from growing weed with subsidies for power and selling it illegally and not reporting the income to stay under the limit?

What's stopping anyone from doing illegal activities?

Electricity cost, for one.

Re: California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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Where is the incentive for everyone to not mine bitcoins?

This is not eliminating use-based billing. It's adding an income based fee on top of rate decreases. You'll still pay for the electricity at some of the highest rates in the world.

Something that got lost due to the editorialized headlines
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