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California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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Re: California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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Post by throwup238 »

Spivak wrote: post #9
talldatethrow wrote: post #5

My rate in California is now 41 cents per kwh. My friends in Idaho are paying 10 cents. When (if) gasoline drops below $4.50-4.75 a gallon, it'll make more sense to just run my Chevy Volt on gasoline than electricity. Californian's like to complain we pay 50-100% more than gasoline than the rest of the country, but it I think if more people knew they'd be really annoyed they pay 4x more for electricity.

Y'all pay 41¢?! That's insane, the highest priced energy provider where I'm at is 7¢. Does your electricity come with foot massages? If you take the default electric provider you pay 5¢, and 5.5¢ if you want 100% renewables.

$0.41/kWh is a good price. I pay at least $0.50/kWh and I have family in the exurbs paying as much as $0.91/kWh in San Diego county. That doesn't include the fixed hook up costs that are constantly going up. We have plans that charge a lot less over night ($0.10-0.20/kWh) to charge EVs though.

Re: California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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Post by dilyevsky »

Spivak wrote: post #9
talldatethrow wrote: post #5

My rate in California is now 41 cents per kwh. My friends in Idaho are paying 10 cents. When (if) gasoline drops below $4.50-4.75 a gallon, it'll make more sense to just run my Chevy Volt on gasoline than electricity. Californian's like to complain we pay 50-100% more than gasoline than the rest of the country, but it I think if more people knew they'd be really annoyed they pay 4x more for electricity.

Y'all pay 41¢?! That's insane, the highest priced energy provider where I'm at is 7¢. Does your electricity come with foot massages? If you take the default electric provider you pay 5¢, and 5.5¢ if you want 100% renewables.

That's bay area price. Non-peak. Peak prices are 60c+ for TUI or if you're over the baseline.

Re: California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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Post by mb389 »

talldatethrow wrote: post #5

My rate in California is now 41 cents per kwh. My friends in Idaho are paying 10 cents. When (if) gasoline drops below $4.50-4.75 a gallon, it'll make more sense to just run my Chevy Volt on gasoline than electricity. Californian's like to complain we pay 50-100% more than gasoline than the rest of the country, but it I think if more people knew they'd be really annoyed they pay 4x more for electricity.

i pay roughly the same in NYC

Re: California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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Post by Spivak »

throwup238 wrote: post #11
Spivak wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Y'all pay 41¢?! That's insane, the highest priced energy provider where I'm at is 7¢. Does your electricity come with foot massages? If you take the default electric provider you pay 5¢, and 5.5¢ if you want 100% renewables.

$0.41/kWh is a good price. I pay at least $0.50/kWh and I have family in the exurbs paying as much as $0.91/kWh in San Diego county. That doesn't include the fixed hook up costs that are constantly going up. We have plans that charge a lot less over night ($0.10-0.20/kWh) to charge EVs though.

Genuinely, I'm so sorry. I can't even imagine my electric bill being 5x let alone 15x. Do y'all just have to conserve like crazy or is your electric bill like a $1000+/mo and that's just normal.

Re: California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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Post by nothercastle »

throwup238 wrote: post #11
Spivak wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Y'all pay 41¢?! That's insane, the highest priced energy provider where I'm at is 7¢. Does your electricity come with foot massages? If you take the default electric provider you pay 5¢, and 5.5¢ if you want 100% renewables.

$0.41/kWh is a good price. I pay at least $0.50/kWh and I have family in the exurbs paying as much as $0.91/kWh in San Diego county. That doesn't include the fixed hook up costs that are constantly going up. We have plans that charge a lot less over night ($0.10-0.20/kWh) to charge EVs though.

Is it cheaper to run a gas generator at some point?

Re: California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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Post by koolba »

> The new California charge will be $24 for most customers, but lower income households, who already qualify for discounted electric rates, will see fees of either $6 or $12.

This will never go down. It will only go up.

And the real idea here is to get a min fixed amount from net zero customers with their own generation (ie solar).

Re: California's electricity rates will shift to a fixed fee based on income

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Post by r00fus »

This is pure corruption (from a SacBee article [1]):

"When a proposal to roll back the fixed rate plan was discussed in a committee hearing last month, all 14 lawmakers abstained from voting — shelving the controversial measure."

So no vote at all on rolling back fixed rates. We truly have the best democracy money can buy.

[1] https://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-aler..."

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