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Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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I find it interesting that it's called a Swedish car company when it's owned by a Chinese car company and none of its cars are produced in Sweden. Is national attribution of companies meaningless?

Maybe every company should open an office in Sweden and call itself Swedish.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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It also disallows drivers behind the vehicle to see through it to see what’s in front. Of course there are plenty such vehicles on the road already (trucks, RVs, etc), but it would probably be detrimental to road safety if this feature becomes popular among automakers.

Queue replacing rear "window" with screen to show what's in front... wait a few years for companies to monetize with ads of course.

https://news.samsung.com/global/the-safety-truck-could-revol...

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

#83
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100% agree on this. What I'd really like to see is less software in an EV, complete isolation between higher and lower functions, normal physical controls and an ability to run the thing entirely disconnected from the manufacturer's dragnet. It should be able to charge and be driven with all critical instruments working fully disconnected from anything and without software updates. My colleagues who drive EVs regular…

Wow youre missing out, car is such a fundamental freedom enabler - of movement

Man, that’s just not true. I live in NYC and the number of things accessible to me and my family via public transit or bike is mind boggling. Then, when we want to leave the city for a few days we rent a car. Costs less than car insurance would be over a year, let alone maintainence, upfront cost, etc.

Everyone can live their life in the way of their own choosing, I don’t begrudge anyone who owns a car or anything like that. But I assure you it’s very, very possible to be free without owning a car.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Driving without a rear window isn’t a big deal - see, for example, nearly every cargo delivery van on Earth. I have to imagine the stubborn refusal to add standard physical controls back to the cockpit has more potential for trouble than an impeded rear view. I wonder if there’s NHTSA data on this specifically for passenger cars? Maybe incidents caused by blocking the driver’s rear view (with furniture or people or w…

Just because it can be done doesn’t mean it’s not a worse driving experience. Visibility has been getting gradually worse for a long time (I presume for crash safety reasons). I learned to drive on my dad's old early-90s era Maxima, which had the best visibility I've ever experienced in a car, and I still miss it!

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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My recent model Subaru Ascent came with a "smart mirror". When enabled, the rear view mirror is actually a display, showing a view of what a rear camera, mounted high in the rear window, sees. This is not the backup camera, it's got one of those too, down by the license plate. At first I had a little bit of skepticism. I figured it would be useful when the back is full of cargo or whatever, but limited beyond that. A…

How do you deal with grime, dirt, rain, snow? The rear view cameras on cars I've driven are often useless even in parking scenarios because of that.

Or 6 years from now when the camera fails and is no longer a part available from the manufacturer

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

#86

I find it interesting that it's called a Swedish car company when it's owned by a Chinese car company and none of its cars are produced in Sweden. Is national attribution of companies meaningless? Maybe every company should open an office in Sweden and call itself Swedish.

Apple doesnt make its products in the US, people consider that a US company.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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post #22

Two comments: 1) Driver's rear view is solved by using a camera, but what about rear passengers. Rear window provides natural light to come in. It might get pretty dark inside without it. 2) How will it impact the DMV driving test? In a recent driving test for a kid, the instructor explicitly said that if the kid reversed by looking at the camera view in the screen, she will fail the kid. With this car, there is no r…

When I did a driving test in the US (which was admittedly a complete joke compared to a UK one I did two decades earlier) I explicitly got told that it was fine to use the camera alone.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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I can switch the camera in my car to replace the normal mirror. This is useful when the trunk is full. I hate it, though, because it forces your eyes to quickly and repeatedly adapt to short vision (the image is close to you), then again on the road etc. There is no such a problem with the normal mirror which shows objects far away so you you don't need to adapt when switching between forward and back view

I bought one of those well reviewed mirror dash cameras and it replaced the center rear view mirror. I hated it and returned it because this extra visual burden and couldn't understand why anyone liked these.

When backing up out of a parking space I much prefer the turnaround method since I lose all my periphery vision that keeps from backing up into the path of other vehicles or people, etc. My back up camera even has a warning for that basically saying "be aware of your surroundings while backing up, because this tiny cone of vision on the screen definitely won't help you with that". Of course modern cars are so high up I can't see anything directly behind me without the camera.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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post #70

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Are you inventing dystopian scenarios just so you can be angry, or do you have access to Polestar's internal plans?

Do you realise Uber and Lyft are already doing this, right?

Actually no, I don’t, I’ve never used Uber or Lyft.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Are you inventing dystopian scenarios just so you can be angry, or do you have access to Polestar's internal plans?

There’s no need to invent anything. We are already living in dystopia.

Maybe you are, I put my phone down every now and then though and choose to “touch grass” as the kids say. Things aren’t so bad.
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