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Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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This feels like a regression, mirrors are really high resolution and are great with depth perception

And better color response, no latency, getting some dirt or leaves splashed on your windscreen doesn’t take out the entire field of view…

None of these matter.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

#22
Two comments:

1) Driver's rear view is solved by using a camera, but what about rear passengers. Rear window provides natural light to come in. It might get pretty dark inside without it.

2) How will it impact the DMV driving test? In a recent driving test for a kid, the instructor explicitly said that if the kid reversed by looking at the camera view in the screen, she will fail the kid. With this car, there is no rearview window, so reverse can only be done by looking at the camera view, there's no looking back while reversing.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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Whilst it feels strange initially and I caught myself thinking why? Most car reverse cameras for 360 degree cameras provide very good visibility outside of the rear of the car. I don't necessarily see the problem with having a rear windscreen, but that's up to the buyer

Aside from regulation, I've had a few (rare) occurences in a Tesla where it's lagged or a camera has glitched out for a few seconds. Those few seconds could be critical on a road at speed.

Strange mental leap. Are you speeding in reverse?

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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post #5

Whilst it feels strange initially and I caught myself thinking why? Most car reverse cameras for 360 degree cameras provide very good visibility outside of the rear of the car. I don't necessarily see the problem with having a rear windscreen, but that's up to the buyer

Apart from dirt, rain, snow, sleet, dust... mechanical and electrical failures, software errors...

It’s a mirror, not a a steering wheel (which has been hybrid-electronic well over a decade and purely electronic since cybertruck)

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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post #12
post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And better color response, no latency, getting some dirt or leaves splashed on your windscreen doesn’t take out the entire field of view…

Counterpoints: I can't see shit out of the back window without some work on my part on many cold mornings ( with electric defrost), but a tiny little camera-heater could be both fast and efficient (which is more important for EVs). I can wipe a small camera lens off faster than I cash wash a uselessly-filthy back window enough that it is better than a streaky opaque mess, as I've had happen to the back window on fair…

I can't think of many real negatives. Since I got a parking camera in my car, I don't use the rear view mirror at all during parking. If there is some way I can get more accurate information about the blind spots around my car (and this camera seems to be one such thing), I'd much prefer that.

There will be cleaning and electronics problems but every technology comes with its own set of issues. The only thing I can think of is the general idea that low tech. often has less moving moving parts and is more resilient but I'm not sure that applies here.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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This feels like a regression, mirrors are really high resolution and are great with depth perception

My biggest issue with Audi and others that try replacing mirrors with cameras is that you need to refocus your eyes. That takes time. I have the same issue with the speedometer: I'm curious how many accidents have already happened because the driver is mandated to remove focus from the road just to check their speed.

The HUD is amazing. Interior screens are only great while not driving.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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post #7

Sat in the rear, it feels claustrophobic. I’m told they will solve that with extra daylight lighting installed behind the rear headrests.

Or, they could "solve" it by installing extra screens on the walls showing ads for package holidays. Of course, that would raise the temperature inside, but it's something that could be solved with extra AC, which would need large batteries and more frequent stops, but that could be solved by... seems to be the way of "innovation" these days, we no longer fix what's broken, but break what works and charge extra for i…

Are you inventing dystopian scenarios just so you can be angry, or do you have access to Polestar's internal plans?

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

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post #22

Two comments: 1) Driver's rear view is solved by using a camera, but what about rear passengers. Rear window provides natural light to come in. It might get pretty dark inside without it. 2) How will it impact the DMV driving test? In a recent driving test for a kid, the instructor explicitly said that if the kid reversed by looking at the camera view in the screen, she will fail the kid. With this car, there is no r…

Ad 1: the glass roof might take care of that.

Re: Polestar eliminates the rear window in latest electric car

#30
post #20

OT: carbuzz.com estimated its curb weight as about 5,500 lbs. That’s good when you’re driving 80mph on the freeway, but way too big around town. I’d like to see drivers in US cities have the option for something smaller, like Renault’s new Duo, the replacement for the Twizy: https://insideevs.com/news/615402/renault-mobilize-duo-is-ne...

> Mobilize Duo will be available on subscription or long-term leases only.

No thank you. Also, it’s ugly.

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