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Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by alistairSH »

user90131313 wrote: post #3

No ipad mini for years is sad. Why not even bit of upgrade to ipad mini. I don't understand.

Sample of two...

I used to have an iPad Mini that I used for reading and light consumption (along with a MacBook). Over time, I went back to an e-ink device for reading, as it's much easier on my eyes (very noticeable after a day of staring at screens at the office). Now I have a Kindle and an iPad Pro.

My wife used to have a Mini as well, for the same reason. Now she either uses her MBA for consumption or a Kindle for reading.

Basically, we found the Mini's biggest strength (small size) was good for reading, but e-ink is better. And for movies/surfing/etc, we both prefer an 11 or 13" screen.

And with phones getting ever larger, the gap between iPhone Pro MegaXL+ and iPad mini isn't much.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by Synaesthesia »

r0fl wrote: post #37
user90131313 wrote: post #3

No ipad mini for years is sad. Why not even bit of upgrade to ipad mini. I don't understand.

The upcoming iPhones will be 6.9 inch vs 8.3 inch on the iPad mini That is such a tiny difference in size

Because of the aspect ratio, it's actually considerably bigger.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by theshrike79 »

Zambyte wrote: post #28
dagmx wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s funny seeing the disconnect between the HN community and the creator communities. The creator communities at ecstatic about this. The HN community seems to have difficult seeing uses outside their own niches. There are tons of types of “Pros”. The entire event was art focused. It’s not a toy for the artistic crowd.

It's a toy after they stop updating it in a few years and you can no longer run new creative software for no good reason. In my book that makes it a toy today too.

After a few years? Are you sure you're not talking about Android tablets?

You easily get 5-6 years of full OS updates, not just security patches, on all iOS/iPadOS devices.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by jbombadil »

user90131313 wrote: post #3

No ipad mini for years is sad. Why not even bit of upgrade to ipad mini. I don't understand.

Agreed! I was waiting for todays event to buy an iPad mini. The form factor seems perfect for my usage. I guess now my choices are either buy a form factor I don’t want, buy a 3 year old device, buy Android or not buy at all.

The latter is looking more and more enticing.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by wslh »

dagmx wrote: post #23
mikestew wrote: post #2

So, a new M4 chip, up to 10 cores and all kinds of other hotness...yet Apple is still going to treat the iPad with all its big boy computer parts as just a toy computer incapable of compiling code or even giving me a terminal window, let alone run macOS apps. Our house is chocked full of Apple gear, but the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device gets less appealing with each generation.

It’s funny seeing the disconnect between the HN community and the creator communities. The creator communities at ecstatic about this. The HN community seems to have difficult seeing uses outside their own niches. There are tons of types of “Pros”. The entire event was art focused. It’s not a toy for the artistic crowd.

I think it is great to think about HN biases. Not in a disrespectful but an epistemological way. For example, we know that Web3 is not well received here.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by cephaslr »

vrosas wrote: post #22

I used some WFH budget on an iPad Air and a pencil thinking it would be great for taking notes and diagramming things but it’s mostly been useless. The UX of mirroring from my laptop to draw things has been a buggy mess in every app I’ve tried. The device has been relegated to a screen for watching movies on during flights.

Thanks for saying this, I did the same with expensing an 13 inch iPad Pro thinking I could use it as an extended screen when I travel. The fine print is that its a buggy mess that only works if the ipad and macbook are on the same wifi and even then at half resolution for the ipad, even when plugged in together via usb-c. All I wanted was a standard definition extra monitor that could work over usb-c and watch movies on flights, instead I ended up buying a normal travel monitor out of pocket and now leave the ipad pro at home. Its only function ended up being for my spouse to watch real housewives before bed.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by ebiester »

laborcontract wrote: post #13

Honestly, as someone deeply invested in the Apple ecosystem, I still find myself scratching my head over the random segmentation of the iPad lineup. There's this whole circus with the Apple Pencil compatibility: one iPad works with the 1st generation Pencil, another supports the 2nd, a two others support the third, and i guess a new magic pencil pro? That's 4 pencils out in the wild. The real kicker for me is how bot…

Isn't faster and prettier screen a difference?

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by WillAdams »

mikestew wrote: post #2

So, a new M4 chip, up to 10 cores and all kinds of other hotness...yet Apple is still going to treat the iPad with all its big boy computer parts as just a toy computer incapable of compiling code or even giving me a terminal window, let alone run macOS apps. Our house is chocked full of Apple gear, but the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device gets less appealing with each generation.

and that is why I have a Samsung Galaxy Book 3 Pro 360 (and to be fair, a Wacom One 13 screen (gen 1) attached to my MacBook).

Probably my next tech purchase will be a Raspberry Pi 5 and a Wacom Movink 13 or second gen. Wacom One 13 --- hopefully it will work as well as the rPi 4 and Wacom One (gen 1) did when I tested them:

https://www.reddit.com/r/wacom/comments/16215v6/wacom_one_ge...

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by pixelmonkey »

laborcontract wrote: post #13

Honestly, as someone deeply invested in the Apple ecosystem, I still find myself scratching my head over the random segmentation of the iPad lineup. There's this whole circus with the Apple Pencil compatibility: one iPad works with the 1st generation Pencil, another supports the 2nd, a two others support the third, and i guess a new magic pencil pro? That's 4 pencils out in the wild. The real kicker for me is how bot…

This is a more detailed comparison table that does new iPad Pro 11in (M4) vs new iPad Air 11in (M2) vs old iPad Air 11in (5th Gen, M1). There are some differences but you're right that they are pretty minor.

https://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/?modelList=ipad-pro-11-m4...

I guess the big difference is the display. OLED for the iPad Pro (which they weirdly call "Ultra Retina XDR") whereas the new iPad Air and the old one have a similar "advanced LCD" display (which they weirdly call "Liquid Retina").

Otherwise, the M4/Pro also has a higher core count, more storage options (up to 2TB) and even more storage available via Thunderbolt (e.g. USB storage devices), so long as you don't mind wires or Thunderbolt/USB hubs.

Then there are some differences that are just pricing or upgrade cycle wedges, like the "pro" keyboard support (only on M4) and the new Apple Pencil "pro" (on M2/M4).

I think I'll personally stick with the iPad Air line, especially since I much prefer Touch ID to Face ID, and I just use a full-blown Apple Bluetooth keyboard anyway rather than the iPad-specific ones. I described my iPad "fancy typewriter" setup here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37643678

Hard to say whether this particular iPad Air release will warrant an upgrade over my iPad Air 5th Gen, though. Doubt it. Identical dimensions, nearly identical core count, identical RAM, and I got the 256 GB option last time around, so it has plenty of storage.

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