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Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by TheRoque »

madjam002 wrote: post #8
mikestew wrote: post #2

So, a new M4 chip, up to 10 cores and all kinds of other hotness...yet Apple is still going to treat the iPad with all its big boy computer parts as just a toy computer incapable of compiling code or even giving me a terminal window, let alone run macOS apps. Our house is chocked full of Apple gear, but the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device gets less appealing with each generation.

I agree, although having bought a Samsung Tab S9 for this reason, it too seems to be very limiting. Samsung Dex is cool and all, but the app selection on Android is worse than iOS and I couldn’t find a way to run Linux since Linux on Dex was killed off.

Have ou tried Termux ?

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by criddell »

mikestew wrote: post #2

So, a new M4 chip, up to 10 cores and all kinds of other hotness...yet Apple is still going to treat the iPad with all its big boy computer parts as just a toy computer incapable of compiling code or even giving me a terminal window, let alone run macOS apps. Our house is chocked full of Apple gear, but the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device gets less appealing with each generation.

> the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device gets less appealing with each generation

It's not for you and that's okay. They sell big boy computers and if you don't like any of them, there are plenty of others. For me, Good Notes and Procreate are killer apps that justify the device.

My current iPad is six or seven years old. If I spent $1500 this time around and it lasts me six years, that works out to something like $0.65 per day.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by laborcontract »

Honestly, as someone deeply invested in the Apple ecosystem, I still find myself scratching my head over the random segmentation of the iPad lineup.

There's this whole circus with the Apple Pencil compatibility: one iPad works with the 1st generation Pencil, another supports the 2nd, a two others support the third, and i guess a new magic pencil pro? That's 4 pencils out in the wild.

The real kicker for me is how both devices are hamstrung more by their software than by any hardware limitations so, really, what can an iPad Pro can do off that the Air can't?

Apple’s product marketing isn't doing us any favors here. Their comparison table is laughable: https://www.apple.com/ipad/

There's a reason why I loved the simplicity of Steve Jobs' product quadrant when he came back to Apple. And a great part of it was the fact that each product addressed a specific category of user. Whereas the iPad lineup has created categories in search of a user.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by naravara »

mikestew wrote: post #2

So, a new M4 chip, up to 10 cores and all kinds of other hotness...yet Apple is still going to treat the iPad with all its big boy computer parts as just a toy computer incapable of compiling code or even giving me a terminal window, let alone run macOS apps. Our house is chocked full of Apple gear, but the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device gets less appealing with each generation.

After reading this Verge article about decapitating a MacBook (https://www.theverge.com/22965732/macbook-decapitation-slabt...) I couldn’t help but imagine how cool it would be if you could plug an iPad into a keyboard/trackpad case like this and have it switch to running MacOS as soon as you do.

There’s a lot of issues with that, like it would be weird if you were doing something in Terminal in “Mac Mode” but then couldn’t go back to to the Terminal window once you take it off your docking station. But that seems pretty solvable.

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by sircastor »

troupo wrote: post #4

So, Apple is doubling down on messy, confusing product lines with no clear distinction or direction other than "must ship something every year"

Apple has a practice in the last decade or so, of bumping its older products into a lower price-point alongside the newer hardware. This is a win for everyone as near as I can tell - The lower priced devices bring more people in. Apple gets to keep using existing tooling for manufacturer. Owners of these products from their initial release can reasonably expect longer support.

Also, tangentially and not at all seriously: If you want to see messy, confusing product lines from Apple allow me to introduce you to a little thing called "Performa"

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by bognition »

alephnerd wrote: post #7
mikestew wrote: post #2

So, a new M4 chip, up to 10 cores and all kinds of other hotness...yet Apple is still going to treat the iPad with all its big boy computer parts as just a toy computer incapable of compiling code or even giving me a terminal window, let alone run macOS apps. Our house is chocked full of Apple gear, but the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device gets less appealing with each generation.

Conversely, I really like using my iPad Pro as a daily driver (eg. Slides, light blogging, Notion, reading, Zoom, Slack, etc) as most of my core apps and usecases are either PWAs or Apps already. And I think this is the target demographic of the iPad - either creative types (eg. designers or musicians) or executives (eg. Consultants, PMs, etc) who are not code driven but still need a workbook style environment. From…

Do you have a physical keyboard mouse that you use?

Re: Redesigned 11-inch and new 13-inch iPad Air

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Post by paxys »

mikestew wrote: post #2

So, a new M4 chip, up to 10 cores and all kinds of other hotness...yet Apple is still going to treat the iPad with all its big boy computer parts as just a toy computer incapable of compiling code or even giving me a terminal window, let alone run macOS apps. Our house is chocked full of Apple gear, but the idea of spending a cool $1000 on a neutered consumption device gets less appealing with each generation.

Yep my 3 year old $299 iPad is already able to stretch iPad OS to its limits. I have no intention of spending $1100+ on an iPad Air/Pro that will add a fancy chip but no functionality to actually use that chip.
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