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Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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How can we still continue to call Israel a liberal society when their entire political class is banning and censoring opposition media? Interfaith marriages are illegal. Gay marriage is illegal (not unusual for the region, but since Israel likes to trot out the rainbow flags it bears repeating). It's the thinnest possible vaneer of "western values" slapped over a colonial military outpost.

Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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Is Qatar a belligerent in the war? Belarus has allowed Russia to use their territory as a point from which to launch both ground assaults and missiles into Ukraine. Hard to say the same about Qatar and Hamas. If Al Jazeera were an Iranian publication the comparison might be more similar. Israeli news reports and analysts say Qatar has sent more than $1 billion to Gaza over the past decade. Qatar sent that aid through…

Is this some kind of rhetorical question? Qatar is the main funder of Hamas regime. And hosting Hamas leadership. They fund Hamas more than Iran, according to Israeli intelligence (which may be wrong but that’s the source we have)

India pays a lot of money to Russia for oil, it doesn't make them a belligerent. China also has close ties, but arguably they've refrained from arming Russia.

Are missiles coming out of Qatar? Are they even supplying arms to Hamas, or do they simply fund the civilian portions of the government?

Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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post #88

Is there anyone else who doesn't support either side of this conflict? They've been fighting each other for over 100 years. They both want the same piece of land. It's on them to figure it out. People around the world don't need to 'pick a side'. We can protest for both sides to sort their shit out, and not drag the rest of us into it.

I think it is not the kind of conflict where you pick a side. There are legitimate and illegitimate claims on both sides. As a bystander I try to evaluate specific actions, not choose a favorite.

I agree with you. What I'm saying is that all I see are people who have picked a side and no one in the middle saying, 'you are both wrong. figure it out'

Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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Many people would say “genocide in gaza” is exactly what the television should be saying.

its not a genocide by any definition.

The ICJ is currently investigating a genocide case against Israel. So I guess we’ll find out… eventually.

https://www.chathamhouse.org/2024/01/south-africas-genocide-...

Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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Netanyahu has also said that he intends to do an operation in Rafah regardless of whether Hamas gives up the remaining hostages. https://text.npr.org/1248276817

Israel's war aims have transparently been about both returning the hostages and removing Hamas from power.

I am just pointing out that Israel isn't planning on agreeing to a ceasefire anytime soon. They'll probably need to have new elections.

Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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We can draw the line when they report proven false information and never apologize for reporting so. We can draw the line when they say one thing on English Al Jazeera and another on Arabic Al Jazeera. We can draw the line when their reporters were (since then eliminated) active member of Hamas rocket teams.

Can you back up the implied claims with some references?

Not parent, but:

1. False report about IDF rape https://www.timesofisrael.com/al-jazeera-report-alleging-idf...

2. Arabic vs English Al Jazeera, conflicting messages

https://english.alarabiya.net/News/gulf/2017/10/01/Al-Jazeer...

https://www.washingtoninstitute.org/policy-analysis/aljazeer...

3. Al Jazeera reporters doubling as Hamas members

https://www.timesofisrael.com/wounded-al-jazeera-reporter-in...

https://www.timesofisrael.com/al-jazeera-journalist-is-also-...

https://twitter.com/AvichayAdraee/status/1756728159158812921

Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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You can think what you want but to act like this is undisputed is a bit silly. https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/02/26/israel-not-complying-wor...

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> its a deliberate attempt to dehumanize jews. there is no systematic erasure of a culture or ethnicity

Israel is being investigated by the ICJ. Calling its war genocide is premature. But rejecting the claim outright is unfounded as well.

Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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How can we still continue to call Israel a liberal society when their entire political class is banning and censoring opposition media? Interfaith marriages are illegal. Gay marriage is illegal (not unusual for the region, but since Israel likes to trot out the rainbow flags it bears repeating). It's the thinnest possible vaneer of "western values" slapped over a colonial military outpost.

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Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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Tik Tok isn't a news agency

Its not but it is being banned because people are getting their news from there and its not following the right narrative that the 'real' news agencies are failing at peddling to the public. Then again I could be wrong and the U.S government just doesn't like people people dancing, hard to tell which one is the reason behind it all.

The congresspeople who voted to shut down TikTok have been very open about the reason: https://twitter.com/wideofthepost/status/1787104142982283587

Re: Israel shuts down local Al Jazeera offices

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How can we still continue to call Israel a liberal society when their entire political class is banning and censoring opposition media? Interfaith marriages are illegal. Gay marriage is illegal (not unusual for the region, but since Israel likes to trot out the rainbow flags it bears repeating). It's the thinnest possible vaneer of "western values" slapped over a colonial military outpost.

> gay marriage is illegal

Is that the bar now? Gay people get thrown from buildings next door in Gaza and they get strung up from a crane in Iran. On that basis, as a gay man, I'd much rather let Israel "trot out the rainbow flags" than take my chances with their enemies.

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