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Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by andix »

sys_64738 wrote: post #108
andix wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe unexpected: I agree One of the biggest improvement for me was improved multi monitor and multi-DPI/PPI support. Being able to just put two different monitors next to each other and moving windows between them works. They just adopt their rendering on the fly to the screens DPI setting and it works with most current software. One of the biggest issues that block me from moving to Linux, I run my displays with 12…

> One of the biggest improvement for me was improved multi monitor and multi-DPI/PPI support. Being able to just put two different monitors next to each other and moving windows between them works. They just adopt their rendering on the fly to the screens DPI setting and it works with most current software. This was a significant fix from W10 to W11 as it was truly awful with W10.

It already works quite well with current Windows 10, the true nightmare was before Windows 10, or maybe with one of the earlier versions. But there was another big improvement with Windows 11.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by brokencode »

sys_64738 wrote: post #109
brokencode wrote: post #13

Microsoft likes to alternate between good and bad releases of Windows. XP was good, Vista was bad. 7 was good, 8 was bad. 10 was good, and 11 is kind of bad. Not as bad as Vista or 8, but still noticeably worse than 10. Here’s hoping that 12 will be an OS with upgrading to.

This works when you pick and choose. You ignored Win2K which is the best Windows version ever and Windows 8.1 which was good too.

No, it’s just a general theme of Windows releases for the past 20 years. They make big, sweeping changes in one release that people don’t like, then spend multiple years addressing criticism until they come up with something that people like again.

Quibble as you may about exact version numbers, but the pattern is not really deniable.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by crtasm »

andix wrote: post #99
_aavaa_ wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

See the comment a few levels up about windows 10 literally promising to be the last version of windows and only updates from now on.

Technically Windows 11 is an update of Windows 10. Look at the version number. It's 10.0.x.x. And seriously, nobody ever promised there will be updates for old hardware for eternity.

But they are excluding recent (maybe also current?) hardware, unnecessarily.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by andix »

crtasm wrote: post #113
andix wrote: post #99

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Technically Windows 11 is an update of Windows 10. Look at the version number. It's 10.0.x.x. And seriously, nobody ever promised there will be updates for old hardware for eternity.

But they are excluding recent (maybe also current?) hardware, unnecessarily.

Yes, they are, but that's not related to the version number. Things like that also happened before on a smaller scale with windows 10 updates.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by ac130kz »

legitster wrote: post #36

I finally got the upgrade to Windows 11 and it's... fine? I don't get all of the hate. Maybe it's because I'm late and everything has been fixed, but it's actually been my favorite version of Windows so far. It finally axed some of the vestigial UIs from Windows 8. And built-in driver support for things like controllers and bluetooth accessories have been a huge upgrade. I'm ready to be showered in a hail of messages…

Windows 11 was a medium update (XP SP3 like) package to Windows 10, which mostly includes quality of life improvements without breaking everything else. There was no "complete overhaul" jump as it was with 7->8 or 8->10.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by DoctorMckay101 »

WSA was a flop because of the Amazon store exclusivity. Almost nobody implements Direct Storage after years of it being available. The UI worsened overall: new right click context menu is horrible. TPM requirement on install. Microsoft account requirement on install.

Only feature that works better on W11 than W10 is autoHDR. You are not getting too many people into W11 for just autoHDR.

Let's see what they do with W12 or however they'll call it.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by DoctorMckay101 »

legitster wrote: post #36

I finally got the upgrade to Windows 11 and it's... fine? I don't get all of the hate. Maybe it's because I'm late and everything has been fixed, but it's actually been my favorite version of Windows so far. It finally axed some of the vestigial UIs from Windows 8. And built-in driver support for things like controllers and bluetooth accessories have been a huge upgrade. I'm ready to be showered in a hail of messages…

I would not expect a user to run a pretty lengthy powershell command or edit registry to get the old right-click context menu though. The "More options" option is quite annoying.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by readthenotes1 »

andix wrote: post #102
readthenotes1 wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

Windows 10 EOL is coming in October '25. So either it's replacing the hardware or running Windows 11 on unsupported CPUs. Or not running Windows at all.

Yep I'm not buying a new Surface Pro for win 11.

When win 10 dies, I'm installing some Linux build and hoping for the best

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Post by benterix »

FredPret wrote: post #72
Xeamek wrote: post #21

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I mean, you can upgrade from w10 to w11 for free, without reinstalling full system. It's not really much different then 'w10 updates forever', just marketing with new version.

I feel Microsoft's main value add is (was?) their business focus. The system is meant for getting things done, and has backward compatibility both for files and for ways of working. But then with Windows 8, things changed. Suddenly there's two control panels, the interface is totally different, and many more things. They shifted the paradigm on me. But I have the same Turing machine as before. I'm doing the same type…

> Others may see it differently.

I think at least some of them see it the same way as you and this might explain some of the numbers.

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