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Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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They broke that streak at the turn of the century. 95 was bad, 98 was good, 2000 was good, XP was good, and then Vista was bad.

Apparently ME was so bad it's been memory-holed.

We don’t talk about Window Me

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

#82
post #42

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They broke that streak at the turn of the century. 95 was bad, 98 was good, 2000 was good, XP was good, and then Vista was bad.

Extremely hot take: Vista was not actually that bad. It was just too many new things at once and required such a massive hardware upgrade. Windows 7 was not that fundamentally different, but by the time it came out the bandaid had been ripped off.

Pretty much what I have been saying.

Windows 7 was in many aspects Vista SE, they just had to give it a new name because Vista was so „tainted“.

I mean it even reported as Windows NT 6.1 (Vista was 6.0)

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

#83
post #7

I’m wondering, what keeps Windows afloat? I’ve become a Windows person in my childhood, and stayed one because games, Photoshop and 3DS Max ran on it. I’ve long switched to Linux (and dual-boot to a very much unloved Win10 for games that don’t run on Linux these days), and I’m baffled that ads occurring in the start menu are a thing – I was similarly shocked when Ubuntu tried this, and will always be cautious around…

On devices that have people working to support the hardware, like Steam Deck, linux works fine. On my laptop Windows gives me working sound, video without tearing, scrolling websites without tearing, not crashing during install.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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There were a lot of regressions that upset me. The option for seconds in the system time was removed. Right-clicking the WiFi/internet connection in the taskbar no longer has the context menu option for "Troubleshoot connection", forcing me to go to options, search Troubleshooters, click "Other troubleshooters" (Because troubleshooting internet is so uncommon, right?) and THEN troubleshoot the internet connection. Fr…

> Microsoft let some designers who only use Mac OS do the design I was wondering why Win11 ripped off that central icon taskbar thing from MacOS instead of keeping their iconic and proven layout. That explains everything.

I think the reasoning is that ultrawide / larger monitors are becoming more common and it's easier / faster to access the taskbar from the center than moving the mouse to the far edge. And if it's not easier, they have an option to move it back to the left. This is one of the least egregious changes, really.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

#86
post #23

Is there any way to buy a new legit Windows 10 install today?

Yes, you just use the Win10 media installer (free download from MS) and buy a win10 key off Amazon or wherever.

Are win10 keys on Amazon legitimate, and how would I tell?

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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I finally got the upgrade to Windows 11 and it's... fine? I don't get all of the hate. Maybe it's because I'm late and everything has been fixed, but it's actually been my favorite version of Windows so far. It finally axed some of the vestigial UIs from Windows 8. And built-in driver support for things like controllers and bluetooth accessories have been a huge upgrade. I'm ready to be showered in a hail of messages…

It has annoying defaults with AI and Spyware stuff. The default UI also is too much like MacOS/ChromeOS. However, after 10-15 minutes of tuning, it becomes a better version of Windows 10, at least for my scenarios. I would NOT go back to Windows 10 right now.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

#88
Here's a wild idea: how about we accept that the Statcounter data just isn't any good, should not be used as the basis of any kind of journalism, and definitely shouldn't be amplified by social media? It's incredibly flaky and volatile data gathered by a tracking company with undisclosed methodology.

It's rare that a month goes by without clickbait articles about small fluctuations in the data showing up on HN. And that the data is obviously trash.

Computers last for years and updates aren't synchronized, so the stats should have a lot of momentum, with changes in sales taking years to materialize as usage share. That's not true of Statcounter's data. Like, just look at the stats for the last year: https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/desktop/worldwide...

Does anyone honestly believe that OS X market share dropped from 21% to 16% in a month? Even the idea is absurd. The fluctuations in "Unknown" operating systems dwarf literally every change that these articles get written about.

Or drilling in deeper, Windows 8.1 was supposedly 6% of US Windows usage in January, but <1% two months before or after. Garbage. Data.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

#89
post #86

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Yes, you just use the Win10 media installer (free download from MS) and buy a win10 key off Amazon or wherever.

Are win10 keys on Amazon legitimate, and how would I tell?

You could also buy a Win11 key directly from MS which will activate a Win10 installation if you're worried about legitimacy.

Re: Windows 10 reaches 70% market share as Windows 11 keeps declining

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post #64
post #34

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Unless you happen to have a CPU which isn't supported, like those still being made at the time when w11 was released. High end cpus too.

Even with most unsupported CPUs you can upgrade to Windows 11. (edit: I think everything newer than 1st gen Intel core is still working) And there is not one piece of software I know of, that promises infinite support time. Windows 10 keeps its promised EOL dates.

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
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