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Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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May I ask if they are direct paper to screen transfers, or if there are specific features/apps that add extra value? I do a lot of work in (paper) engineering notebooks, and I'm curious about what improvements your workflow has.

Undo is one thing you get used to very quickly. Copy paste, select and move, change colors, erase without a trace... digital handwriting has a lot to offer. However, the app ecosystem is lacking in terms of interoperability, feature completeness within one app and export/import capabilities, and there is nothing you can do about it in iPadOS. File management is pure pain unless you fully bought into Apple already. It…

Strong agree with the first two paragraphs. I have spent >10 working hours per week for past 4 years with an app I paid $7 for. I wish so much I could pay $7,000 for an improved version.

Disagree on permanence. My notes are useful for much longer when they can be electronically sorted, searched, backed up, and when they take up no additional space in my backpack.

Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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I am a physicists (theory), and about a third of my work is “pencil and paper” calculations (and related notes) on the iPad Pro. I use it professionally ~20 hours per week.

Maybe you should try remarkable tablet?

Tried it, along with like 5 other tablets before I settled on the iPad+Pencil combo

Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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They need to stop calling these pro devices. They are barely functional for anything beyond casual use and artwork

In the concert hall I see more and more musicians & singers replacing paper music sheets with 12” iPad Pro’s. Mostly individual artist but recently all members of a cappella choir. Some, eg the violinists, use a small device on the floor probably connected by Bluetooth to advance to the next page with their foot. I don’t remember seeing a conductor with the full score on an iPad though, maybe one day with a foldable 2x20+”.

Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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I love the iPad for its stylus, it’s a great device for brainstorming even with just notes. I wish there was more creative software they took advantage of the form factor however, like a touch/stylus based programming environment.

It is marketed to be more than a drawing device tho. It fails at anything but being a glorified scratchpad. Very narrow usefulness. I got the first iPad (2016?) with pencil, for 400€, I think. It still does completely fulfill my needs for brainstorming. For anything else, the app ecosystem and locked down system are useless.

I bought the iPad to do mostly three things: browse web, send emails, watch video, and take notes.

I also wish there were better more inventive apps.

Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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Wacom makes Centiqs which are very popular pen on screen monitors if you prefer that style, so the iPad doesn't bring much there. I would say the vast majority of artists do not travel and do not need to draw mid-meeting. Certainly there are exceptions but they are just that, exceptions.

Centiqs may be great, but I've seen 100 artists using an iPad for every 1 artist I've seen using a Centiq. I would say the vast majority of artists do have client meetings, whether they're employed full-time or freelance. And artists need to work on the go just like the rest of us. Whether it's a dad trying to do 30 min of video editing in his car while he waits for daycare to get out, or somebody in the city doing a…

Interesting, I've worked in large game studios with many 2d and 3d digital artists and they just don't use iPads. It could be a specific industry thing or a regional thing but even during the early hybrid work days I would see artists haul in and pack up their Centiqs. IPads were not in the conversation.

I will say that it's a major disconnect in our experience that you would say the majority of artists are directly client facing.

What company/industry is buying their artists iPads?

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I don’t recall any that affected silicon?

Key extraction from the HSM. It's unclear if this was ultimately patched in the kernel, but it appears patchable. [1] https://gofetch.fail/ [2] https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/112238385679496096

Definitely not the HSM, this only affects the AP

Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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Having an iPad Pro with an M1, I grow increasingly frustrated each year with how incapable my iPad is compared to my Macbook/Linux laptops. iPadOS still feels like iOS with some visual tweaks to the larger screen real estate. It’s absolutely not a laptop killer for a sysadmin or developer (unless your preferred language is Swift). Maybe it’s a laptop killer for creative professionals? I think my iPad is an excellent…

> Maybe it’s a laptop killer for creative professionals? Nope. I'd argue developers are actually the best served professionals by iPads, simply because a terminal-drive workflow via SSH is at least possible. I've written about the situation of creative apps not gaining traction on iPads (Procreate being the main exception) https://blog.robenkleene.com/2019/08/07/apples-app-stores-ha...

> simply because a terminal-driven workflow via SSH is at least possible

This has been the one thing that has kept my iPad useful! I use Blink (grandfathered into their Legacy Pro plan) and it’s a very clean experience. I can’t help but feel like it’s a fragile experience having to rely on an app from the app store for my iPad to be useful — that Apple or the Developer could remove at any time. Maybe it would feel less fragile if Apple provided an official i[Pad]OS Terminal/SSH client.

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