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Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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Post by saagarjha »

CSSer wrote: post #10
aurareturn wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not completely insane. 1. N3B TSMC node used by M3 is reportedly low yielding. Apple likely wants to move away from it asap and move to N3E, which is the higher yielding node. 2. Rumors are that M3 Ultra is not planned due to low yields. M3 Max die shot does not have UltraFusion silicon. This supports the first theory. 3. Apple base the M chips on the A series cores. A18 Pro has already finished in design becaus…

Think that whole major, unpatchable security flaw thing could also play a part? I could see them wanting to put distance between themselves on that fast too.

I don’t recall any that affected silicon?

Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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Post by jajko »

jessriedel wrote: post #18
barbariangrunge wrote: post #7

They need to stop calling these pro devices. They are barely functional for anything beyond casual use and artwork

I am a physicists (theory), and about a third of my work is “pencil and paper” calculations (and related notes) on the iPad Pro. I use it professionally ~20 hours per week.

Which doesn't mean parent is wrong. You can do any work on non-ideal equipment and be happy with it for various reasons.

When I saw what one of my ex was using (bio chemist growing various stuff and testing treatments to rare sickle cell anemia that pharma didn't care about due to low patient count), it was very subpar and inefficient but she was happy with it and got results nevertheless eventually. Some of her work I could make more efficient by 10x, some by 50x maybe, but ie she as hardcore unix person just plainly refused to use MS Excel and all its statistics power, to pick a random example (there were quite a few).

Not saying this is your case of course, but oh boy do small screens, limited browsers, limited power and storage speed etc. do have negative effect on work itself, mental flow, staying focused etc. There is a reason not only we IT guys want powerful machines and massive screens, it ain't just chasing shiny higher numbers.

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Post by alberth »

barbariangrunge wrote: post #7

They need to stop calling these pro devices. They are barely functional for anything beyond casual use and artwork

Pro != “professional”

Pro == more capable

And the iPad Pro is more capable than any other iPad.

Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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Post by dmix »

mikae1 wrote: post #14
barbariangrunge wrote: post #7

They need to stop calling these pro devices. They are barely functional for anything beyond casual use and artwork

There are professionals in artwork?

iPad Pros are often used in music production too. There’s plenty of heavier duty non-casual sitting on the couch watching TV type use cases it’s used for and it’s targeted at.

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Post by jwhitlark »

jessriedel wrote: post #18
barbariangrunge wrote: post #7

They need to stop calling these pro devices. They are barely functional for anything beyond casual use and artwork

I am a physicists (theory), and about a third of my work is “pencil and paper” calculations (and related notes) on the iPad Pro. I use it professionally ~20 hours per week.

May I ask if they are direct paper to screen transfers, or if there are specific features/apps that add extra value? I do a lot of work in (paper) engineering notebooks, and I'm curious about what improvements your workflow has.

Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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Post by Jam-O »

ZiiS wrote: post #20
Jam-O wrote: post #8

My guess is that M4 and forwards will not be so much about CPU and GPU performance but have some sort of local LLM in ROM. So every year you should upgrade to get the best hardware LLM ever released.

The whole article hinges on them adding more inference power to the Neural Engine, but the is no benifit or plausable reason to burn weights into ROM.

iPhone/iPad 16GB RAM + 64GB hardware local LLM ROM. Apple can phrase it as both a benefit and a reason to upgrade and reduce its costs over suddenly bumping RAM by 400%.

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Post by kevlened »

saagarjha wrote: post #21
CSSer wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Think that whole major, unpatchable security flaw thing could also play a part? I could see them wanting to put distance between themselves on that fast too.

I don’t recall any that affected silicon?

Key extraction from the HSM. It's unclear if this was ultimately patched in the kernel, but it appears patchable.

[1] https://gofetch.fail/

[2] https://social.treehouse.systems/@marcan/112238385679496096

Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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Post by WoodenChair »

tromp wrote: post #2

Apple announced the M3 on October 30 last year, roughly 6 months ago. Have they ever announced successive chip designs in such a short time frame? Unless Mark Gurman has a record of making reliable predictions about Apple, I wouldn't give this much credence.

> Unless Mark Gurman has a record of making reliable predictions about Apple, I wouldn't give this much credence.

He does have a great record.

Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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Post by jayd16 »

jessriedel wrote: post #18
barbariangrunge wrote: post #7

They need to stop calling these pro devices. They are barely functional for anything beyond casual use and artwork

I am a physicists (theory), and about a third of my work is “pencil and paper” calculations (and related notes) on the iPad Pro. I use it professionally ~20 hours per week.

I drink coffee at work. Does that make it Coffee Pro?

Re: Bloomberg: "Strong possibility" of M4 debuting on May 7 with new iPad Pro

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Post by mirekrusin »

jessriedel wrote: post #18
barbariangrunge wrote: post #7

They need to stop calling these pro devices. They are barely functional for anything beyond casual use and artwork

I am a physicists (theory), and about a third of my work is “pencil and paper” calculations (and related notes) on the iPad Pro. I use it professionally ~20 hours per week.

Maybe you should try remarkable tablet?
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