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The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Re: The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Post by forgetfreeman »

Vvector wrote: post #177
tomrod wrote: post #113

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The meme of a living wage is a nice one. It hits most moral frameworks as fair. The concern I have with it is it isn't defined. What does living mean? When I belonged to a high demand religion that is known for "helping" its membership, financial assistance was dedicated to the preservation of life only. Not the preservation or growth of the quality of life. So if you had a medical life transition and a mortgage, the…

I think you are on the right path. I've seen the arguments that "minimum wage" should be able to afford a median priced 2BR apartment (30% of income). Then who rents the bottom third apartments? I'm all for a bottom tier safety net to keep people off the streets.

We've decided servicing slumlords' profit margins is now a societal goal?

Re: The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Post by Ekaros »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #37
ClassyJacket wrote: post #17

Further evidence we should build a Futurama-style series of tubes in cities for delivering items. I'm not joking. Might need extra packaging to pin the pizza down to survive the forces however. Maybe stack the slices and wrap them or something.

Those existed, though ones large enough to ship a pizza were rare. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pneumatic_tube

Just have to roll it up. Sadly PFAS are banned so can't put non-stick plastic layer in between to avoid sticking...

Re: The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Post by lupusreal »

pc86 wrote: post #234
lupusreal wrote: post #227

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Ideally the insurance company only cares about crimes that are relevant to the job; theft or embezzlement for workers handling cash. DUIs for drivers. Etc. There are certain combinations of crime and job that are sensibly going to be risky, but how do you prevent companies from being overcautious? An insurance company that was more optimally cautious than overcautious won't gain much for it.

Why do you need to "prevent companies from being overcautious?" It's their money they're spending, it's their customer relationships they're putting at risk, it's their liability they're increasing by having someone with multiple DUI convictions driving around the work truck. Criminal history is not a protected class (nor should it be), there's nothing wrong with a company saying it doesn't want to hire people with c…

We don't "need" to but we'd all be generally better off if ex-cons can find honest jobs to support themselves.

Re: The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Post by tomrod »

forgetfreeman wrote: post #251
Vvector wrote: post #177

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I think you are on the right path. I've seen the arguments that "minimum wage" should be able to afford a median priced 2BR apartment (30% of income). Then who rents the bottom third apartments? I'm all for a bottom tier safety net to keep people off the streets.

We've decided servicing slumlords' profit margins is now a societal goal?

Only when we forget that affordable housing is also in those lower brackets.

Re: The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Post by Sohcahtoa82 »

hypeatei wrote: post #185
Filligree wrote: post #74

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Pathfinding algorithms are absolutely artificial intelligence. A* and so on were invented in just that sort of research. It may not be AGI, but that was never claimed.

If I write an if statement, is that AI?

IMO, what counts as "AI" is one of those "I know it when I see it" things, simply because trying to write a lawyer-proof definition isn't possible.

I'd argue that "AI" doesn't have to be attempting to achieve AGI to be considered AI. For example, "Computer" players in games are AI. This applies whether you're talking something as advanced as a deep strategy game like the Civ series, or something as basic as the ghosts in Pac-Man, or even an automated Tic-Tac-Toe player.

So...is a path finding algorithm "AI"? I dunno. I could go either way.

But like...I seriously can't come up with a real definition of "AI" that wouldn't end up including things that definitely aren't AI. For example, is AI simply any code that seems like it has agency and makes decisions? If so, then is any sort program that triggers execution based on certain detections "AI"? Certainly not. Is it code that attempts to mimic human behavior, even at a basic level? If so, then is AutoHotKey AI? Nope, definitely not.

Re: The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Post by OkayPhysicist »

addicted wrote: post #87
forgetfreeman wrote: post #49

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Yeaaaaaah, remember when the bulk of US manufacturing and industry was offshored a few decades ago and pundits were falling all over themselves to explain how we were transitioning to a "service economy"? Well this is what a service economy looks like.

A service economy with proper living wages is absolutely possible. I’m not a fan of such an economy because any country, especially one as large as the U.S., has no reason to be a single sector economy and plus as we saw during the pandemic and are seeing in the Ukraine war, a lack of domestic manufacturing capabilities is a significant strategic threat. However, the gig economy model is a choice. A choice that can b…

California voters showed up in droves to prevent that exact classification change from happening, because your average voter is few IQ points away from needing help tying their shoes, and will absolutely eat up whatever lies Uber et al. will pump out.

Re: The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Post by Ekaros »

simiones wrote: post #164
kergonath wrote: post #117

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> Most of the general population have no idea what a normal distribution is. They have an intuitive understanding of what an average is, though. And when provided a scale the vast majority of people assume that the average is in the middle. If some smart arse grading system is not intuitively understood by someone’s customers (and seriously, people have something like 10 seconds to make that choice), it’s not the use…

No, most people when asked to rate something think back to their school days, where "has done all the work we asked for" is either the max grade (A/10/20), or just under (say, A-/9/18). So, most people give 5 stars (or more rarely 4 stars) to drivers that have met their expectations.

That is very country specific. Here scale is 4 to 10. 4 being failure and 10 being essentially perfection. Average work being 7 with 6 below and 8 pretty good and 9 good. Scaling this to 1 to 5 would mean 1 is failure, 2 is not entirely failed, 3 average, 4 good and 5 perfection.

Re: The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Post by sva_ »

cm2012 wrote: post #153
Gunax wrote: post #15

My dad tells a story that happened in 198X while the 30-minute guarantee still existed. He was living in DC and traffic in his neighbourhood was absolutely abysmal at peak hours when gov employees were leaving work. Apparently it could take 20 minutes just to get drive a few blocks. So he ordered pizza with the delivery time carefully planned to coincide right when traffic was greatest. Yet somehow the drive was able…

What your dad did is not cool. Stressing out some delivery worker to try to scam a free pizza is gross.

Yeah it is objectively not cool, but I have to say that I'd have tried it too.

Re: The failure of the Domino's 30-minute delivery guarantee

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Post by everforward »

FeepingCreature wrote: post #214
everforward wrote: post #156

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No, but some people do need to be informed of how dangerous it is, and doctors can either prescribe weight loss medications or give a referral to a doctor specializing in medical and surgical weight loss. Regardless, it’s something I would expect doctors to nag patients about, the same way my dentist nags me to floss.

Why, if there's proven to be no benefit?

The person I responded to said that there's no benefit to advice to diet and exercise. Presuming that's true (I doubt that there's 0 effect, and e.g. [1] would disagree), there are still benefits. As I mentioned, advice on dieting and exercising is far from the only tool doctors can reach for here.

There are medical options that doctors can prescribe (or refer to another doctor for a prescription). WeGovy/semaglutide, Adipex, HCG, good old adderall, etc. I haven't followed the space in about a decade so I don't know what's in and what's banned, but I'm aware there are a range of options there. I believe there are some outpatient programs as well, semantically similar to outpatient rehabs.

There are also surgical options that doctors can refer patients to a surgeon for. Laparoscopic bands, gastric bypasses, I think there's a third that I can't recall.

The incredibly sad issue is that doctors are sometimes forced to fall back on advice to diet and exercise because many of these treatments are contra-indicated with common comorbidities of obesity. Anesthesia can be very risky for patients with a BMI of 45 or 50, so they may need to lose weight the old fashioned way until they're at a weight where they can be safely anesthetized. Stimulants (adipex and adderall) are very effective at curbing hunger, but are contra-indicated by high blood pressure which is incredibly common.

I also believe there's a large segment of primary care physicians who aren't up to date on weight loss procedures, because they change fairly frequently relative to something like treating strep throat.

[1]: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6169796/#:~:tex... (

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