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H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

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Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because regions and industries that pay less would be mad, and they’ve got lots of congressmen.

That could potentially be solved by having different buckets for different regions and industries? Seems like that'd be a much fairer system than the current lottery one.

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Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

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Why is there a lottery anyway instead of a salary ranking/salary threshold system? This'd disincentivize bad actors, ensure the US domestic labor pool is not undercut, and (more or less) lead to higher quality H-1B immigrants.

Because no one involved in the policy making cares about what’s actually best for the people involved. It’s money all the way down.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#64

> We're told some consultancies tap up foreigners to work for clients illegally using the identities of legit citizens or green card holders. "That's where the true scam is and the real money is at," If they are really doing this. It’s outrageous. And out right illegal.

I read this a few times and am really struggling to see how this scam works out. Crudely speaking, are these agencies just finding existing green card holders and American citizens with names that they can use to put down on paperwork…then hire the foreign worker who happens to have have the same name…and this somehow bypasses some sort of legal checks somewhere? What’s the point of a SSN?

Yeah, I was thinking the same. This is just wrong on so many levels. This is what leads to identity fraud.

I am reaching out to my congressman and senators office to let them know that several elements of this program are abused so much they should take a fresh look at this. I suggest you do the same.

I truly believe that immigration is what keeps America the greatest country in the world. But this kind of abuse needs to stop.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

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Above all, I wonder why brain drain is not viewed as a geopolitical tool. High skilled young professionals from China and Russia are essentially non-replaceable due to their declining birth rates. You can do a lot more damage this way than through various sanctions. A lot of people already want to move to the US, so this can easily be done by getting rid of the cap and switching to a tax on the employer to simplify the process.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#66

> Rather than hire US workers to perform the onshore work, these firms hire large numbers of H-1B and L-1 visa workers to fill the jobs in America. Terrible for America. And terrible for India.

In an ironic twist, cheaper white collar workers should make services on the whole cheaper. Something that would be good for blue collar/hourly workers. In the same way that lax borders are beneficial to white collar workers by making goods cheaper.

Looks like we are all "racists" after all.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#67

Something that I personally feel unfair about the H1B lottery is that it doesn't consider where you live and what you are currently doing. Students that graduate through a STEM degree get to work for 3 years in their OPT (Optional Practical Training). This extends then to them having 3 chances (one per year) at getting the H1B. Now what's unfair is that an employer in the US can apply H1B for employees living oversee…

I would expect that to be partially counter balanced by companies being more willing to sponsor someone already in the US over someone currently overseas? Haven't had to go through that process fortunately but seems likely from a practical standpoint.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#68

With all the tech layoffs, IT is actually loosing jobs. Do they really need H-1B till the IT job market stabilizes?

There are multiple factors. Some H-1B are very skilled and in need. But there are consultancies who make money off these workers and don't care about the skill, they'll do whatever they can to make money. Also another factor is suppressing salaries as people need to compete these lowly paid workers...

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#69

Why is there a lottery anyway instead of a salary ranking/salary threshold system? This'd disincentivize bad actors, ensure the US domestic labor pool is not undercut, and (more or less) lead to higher quality H-1B immigrants.

Well, not all specialties pay the same so it'd be problematic if some of the worse paying ones had a bunch of unfilled spots while higher ones didn't. There isn't a (financial) incentive to quit your better paying job to work a less paying one. I think a better solution is just a "tariff" where a company has to pay an additional 50% of the total compensation to the government. Then if you could fill the spot with an…

So pay someone $20 an hour and pay the government $10 an hour.

Re: H-1B visa fraud alive and well amid anti-abuse efforts

#70
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Why do they all keep saying H1-B workers are underpaid? The government determines minimum pay for each application. My experience has been that this number is quite high.

Even if the pay by salary amount is fair, these workers can be exploited to work more hours than their non-H1B colleagues such that if their pay was broken down hourly it would be comparatively lower.
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