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Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Post by zamalek »

nixgeek wrote: post #78
ChumpGPT wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not buying quality when you buy Tesla, you're buying fashion. if you want quality buy a Toyota/Lexus.

I don’t think either had an EV option suiting my needs when we bought a Model X? Meaning able to seat 6-7 humans and ~300 miles of range in the battery pack? Do they even have a viable option today? (I’m unaware how the Lexus electrification is going.)

As for Toyota, 6-7 humans, it's either hybrid or you're SOL. I think the GP might have been referring to ICE?

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Post by chgs »

headmelted wrote: post #47
bethekind wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Robot taxis not coming soon enough?

I was under the impression (admittedly from an article I read a couple of years ago) that the consensus within the company was pretty much always that robo-taxis were one man’s pipe dream. Weren’t there also disclosure documents a couple of years ago when they were trying to license autopilot that said they believed internally they were at level 2 as opposed to 4/5? (I might be remembering this part wrong)

Do I taxis certainly aren’t just one man’s dream. Whether not not they are possible in the next 50 years is another matter, but plenty of people want them and are willing to invest in developing them.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Post by dralley »

FredPret wrote: post #91
hn72774 wrote: post #73

Could it be that Musk's inflammatory language and behaviors are a turn off for potential buyers? They are a turn off for me. I like the vehicles but I'd never get one.

It's such a shame that he's sullying his reputation like this. Howard Hughes-like. He could have retired in a blaze of glory a couple of years ago, straight into the pantheon of epic American entrepreneurs.

His behavior isn't the only Howard Hughes callback. The entire Cybertruck project screams it.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Post by themaninthedark »

monkeydust wrote: post #33

So trying to establish how to attribute this to: - World wide supply issues (Red Sea) - TSLA specific issues (Strikes, Pay Dispute) - Overall demand for EVs - to this factor, any good benchmarks out there to establish demand?

Rivian is not doing well either: https://techcrunch.com/2024/04/02/rivian-started-a-tough-yea...

In addition Ford, Lucid and Fisker are also scaling back and not selling EV's as well.

I think this points to a falling EV market.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Post by jsnell »

dorkwood wrote: post #94
hn72774 wrote: post #73

Could it be that Musk's inflammatory language and behaviors are a turn off for potential buyers? They are a turn off for me. I like the vehicles but I'd never get one.

Deliveries are still up since Q1 2023, so I guess not.

The numbers from the article are 422k deliveries in Q1 2023, 386k in Q1 2024. That's down by almost 10%, not up.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Post by afavour »

leetharris wrote: post #93
hn72774 wrote: post #73

Could it be that Musk's inflammatory language and behaviors are a turn off for potential buyers? They are a turn off for me. I like the vehicles but I'd never get one.

The vast majority of the world doesn't exist in the online sphere. I think that they have saturated the initial EV buyers, mainstream is still afraid of EV and there's more anti-EV propaganda in the media than ever before.

1. The vast majority of the world isn't buying Teslas, either

2. Musk is one of few figures whose controversies escape the online world, though. Like the "pedo diver" thing, it was an international story with world attention and he jammed himself in the middle of it.

That said, I'm also not convinced his reputation is the reason for shipments to drop precipitously. But it could absolutely be a contributing factor.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Post by zamalek »

hn72774 wrote: post #73

Could it be that Musk's inflammatory language and behaviors are a turn off for potential buyers? They are a turn off for me. I like the vehicles but I'd never get one.

Anecdata: I had paid my $200 [sunk cost] deposit. Elon's bullshit turned me away.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Post by luuurker »

I'm not sure if the latest Model 3 upgrade is going to sell as well as the previous ones. Some changes are bad.

Eg: Someone I know struggles with turn signals. We have a few roundabouts here and it can be a bit confusing on tighter turns when the buttons are upside down.

Re: Tesla releases Q1 2024 deliveries: disastrous results

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Post by cqqxo4zV46cp »

hn72774 wrote: post #73

Could it be that Musk's inflammatory language and behaviors are a turn off for potential buyers? They are a turn off for me. I like the vehicles but I'd never get one.

Even if I wanted a Tesla, it wouldn’t pass the partner acceptance test for me. My partner is aware of the quality issues, but beyond that, she (like me) can’t help but cringe at the optics of owning a Musk-mobile.

If you want to be a loudmouth dick online and intertwine your persona with that of your companies for #traction, it cuts both ways.

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