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Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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The way in which this topic is discussed is endlessly infuriating because: While indeed, social media and specifically content algorithms (both in the present where they decide which content people see, and in the future where they may indeed create it entirely) are certainly worthy of scrutiny with regard to many mental illnesses, and the ongoing exploitation of the attention of young people especially by figures su…

Yeah, agreed. Was thinking something similar but your comment is better measured and nuanced. Like, "social media is the problem" suggests the way to help young people is get them off their phone. In some ways, yeah, I do think that would help. But the deeper causes are _why_ social media companies are allowed to keep making addictive products with no responsibility for the negative outcomes, as well as _why_ there is so much scary stuff happening with little action being taken to fix it.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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I always wonder when an "epidemic" gets reported if things really have changed or if we just recognize it better. When I grew up, we had a lot of kids (including myself) with problems like depression or not fitting in in other ways. Back then they were just labeled as "slow", "stupid" or "difficult". Nobody thought about mental illness or ways for addressing these issues.

Youth suicide rates are going up, I think that's quite objectively measurable. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db471.pdf Not proof that social media is behind it of course.

Drastically reduced economic opportunities, housing affordability, and political disenfranchisement seem more proximate causes.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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I always see discussions on this topic online immediately start discussing how the content of social media is the driver of the mental health issues (comparison to others, everyone projecting their best selves etc). My own experiences with social media and phone addiction leads me to believe its not JUST the content, but also (equally, perhaps moreso) the fact that teenagers AND adults with social media and phone add…

Very on point

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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I always see discussions on this topic online immediately start discussing how the content of social media is the driver of the mental health issues (comparison to others, everyone projecting their best selves etc). My own experiences with social media and phone addiction leads me to believe its not JUST the content, but also (equally, perhaps moreso) the fact that teenagers AND adults with social media and phone add…

I'm in the same boat as you, and feel equally strongly about it, despite being in a bit of a relapse period at the moment.

"The medium is the message" never stops being relevant. The 'content' of social media is just the 'reward' mechanism for your engagement.

This is the fourth (?) time on HN I've recommended "Amusing Ourselves to Death" by Neil Postman. If you're a reader, I think you might enjoy it. It is both descriptive of its time in the age of Television, and incredibly prescient. It has aged flawlessly, you can draw a straight line from it to our modern, socially mediated world.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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I'm guessing not just teenagers. Every day on Twitter, I see posts like [this]( https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/17741956933237925... ) by accounts with hundreds of thousands of followers that are indistinguishable from schizophrenic ideation. These consist of extremely idiosyncratic delusions that, thanks purely to social media, find a community of believers who can reassure each other that no, they're not…

Ley lines, 2024 style.

Humans really are mentally defective in very predictable ways.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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Don't know about teenagers, but quite a few people close to me, 50 to 60 yrs old have have gone more than a little mad due to social media. Paranoia, conspiracy, and chronic anxiety. They were all quite sane 10 years ago.

They were not sane.

You just had no way to know, and now you do.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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I always wonder when an "epidemic" gets reported if things really have changed or if we just recognize it better. When I grew up, we had a lot of kids (including myself) with problems like depression or not fitting in in other ways. Back then they were just labeled as "slow", "stupid" or "difficult". Nobody thought about mental illness or ways for addressing these issues.

Youth suicide rates are going up, I think that's quite objectively measurable. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db471.pdf Not proof that social media is behind it of course.

The same agency publishes this other chart that adds quite a bit of context IMHO.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/66/wr/mm6630a6.htm

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to make sure I understand what you're saying, someone who identifies outside of the gender binary has a mental disorder?

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The "gender binary" itself is just cultural sex stereotyping, so pretty much everyone is "non-binary" in practice. As almost no-one behaves as the caricature of femininity or masculinity that some people have unfortunately come to believe represents women and men.

So it's not really a useful concept at all, and certainly not as an indication of mental disorder.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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The way they use it is so stupid. It's this constant game of trying to one-up each other and create a "personal brand"

I really don't get it, people can't just sit and do shit in the moment, everything has to be for status. This trend of injecting marketing into literally everything needs to stop, that's no way to live

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