The way in which this topic is discussed is endlessly infuriating because: While indeed, social media and specifically content algorithms (both in the present where they decide which content people see, and in the future where they may indeed create it entirely) are certainly worthy of scrutiny with regard to many mental illnesses, and the ongoing exploitation of the attention of young people especially by figures su…
Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?
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#62I always wonder when an "epidemic" gets reported if things really have changed or if we just recognize it better. When I grew up, we had a lot of kids (including myself) with problems like depression or not fitting in in other ways. Back then they were just labeled as "slow", "stupid" or "difficult". Nobody thought about mental illness or ways for addressing these issues.
Youth suicide rates are going up, I think that's quite objectively measurable. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db471.pdf Not proof that social media is behind it of course.
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#63I always see discussions on this topic online immediately start discussing how the content of social media is the driver of the mental health issues (comparison to others, everyone projecting their best selves etc). My own experiences with social media and phone addiction leads me to believe its not JUST the content, but also (equally, perhaps moreso) the fact that teenagers AND adults with social media and phone add…
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#64I always see discussions on this topic online immediately start discussing how the content of social media is the driver of the mental health issues (comparison to others, everyone projecting their best selves etc). My own experiences with social media and phone addiction leads me to believe its not JUST the content, but also (equally, perhaps moreso) the fact that teenagers AND adults with social media and phone add…
"The medium is the message" never stops being relevant. The 'content' of social media is just the 'reward' mechanism for your engagement.
This is the fourth (?) time on HN I've recommended "Amusing Ourselves to Death" by Neil Postman. If you're a reader, I think you might enjoy it. It is both descriptive of its time in the age of Television, and incredibly prescient. It has aged flawlessly, you can draw a straight line from it to our modern, socially mediated world.
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#65I'm guessing not just teenagers. Every day on Twitter, I see posts like [this]( https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/17741956933237925... ) by accounts with hundreds of thousands of followers that are indistinguishable from schizophrenic ideation. These consist of extremely idiosyncratic delusions that, thanks purely to social media, find a community of believers who can reassure each other that no, they're not…
Humans really are mentally defective in very predictable ways.
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#66Don't know about teenagers, but quite a few people close to me, 50 to 60 yrs old have have gone more than a little mad due to social media. Paranoia, conspiracy, and chronic anxiety. They were all quite sane 10 years ago.
You just had no way to know, and now you do.
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#67Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?
#68I always wonder when an "epidemic" gets reported if things really have changed or if we just recognize it better. When I grew up, we had a lot of kids (including myself) with problems like depression or not fitting in in other ways. Back then they were just labeled as "slow", "stupid" or "difficult". Nobody thought about mental illness or ways for addressing these issues.
Youth suicide rates are going up, I think that's quite objectively measurable. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db471.pdf Not proof that social media is behind it of course.
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Just to make sure I understand what you're saying, someone who identifies outside of the gender binary has a mental disorder?
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So it's not really a useful concept at all, and certainly not as an indication of mental disorder.
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#70I really don't get it, people can't just sit and do shit in the moment, everything has to be for status. This trend of injecting marketing into literally everything needs to stop, that's no way to live