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Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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I always see discussions on this topic online immediately start discussing how the content of social media is the driver of the mental health issues (comparison to others, everyone projecting their best selves etc).

My own experiences with social media and phone addiction leads me to believe its not JUST the content, but also (equally, perhaps moreso) the fact that teenagers AND adults with social media and phone addiction are just spending so much of their time absorbed into a screen scrolling and getting quick dopamine hits for hours and hours.

When that is your default that you revert to to distract yourself at almost any point of discomfort, slight boredom, lapse in focus, anxiety or feelings of sadness, all it does is just dampen those feelings momentarily. You live in almost a fugue state where those things just fester as you avoid them instead of learning to cope with them or respond to them in an agentic or healthy manner.

Working to cut out social media, reddit, youtube etc on my phone, leave my phone by our front door while at home, never have my phone in bed, and spend time writing/journaling my thoughts and actually engaging with my feelings of anxiety or depression or stress instead of avoiding them has been by far the most significant improvement on my mental health compared to many other things I've worked out.

This is definitely anecdotal, and its definitely my experience, but after the time i've spent working on these things and with what I see in the teenagers, young people, and friends in my life I feel very strongly about it.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

#42

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Just to make sure I understand what you're saying, someone who identifies outside of the gender binary has a mental disorder?

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Feels like 1952 again. When Alan Turing was jailed for homosexuality.

To be generous I would say maybe some people have a disorder and that causes them to state they are non binary, but the implication isn’t the other way.

Similarly a mental disorder may make someone obsessed with levels and coding 80hrs a week!

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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All this article says is that Haidt's analysis is just correlation, and then cites a single metastudy from 2019, and doesn't go on to explain what Haidt did wrong. This is despite extensive writing from Haidt that deconstructs that specific metastudy.

Only correlation can never explain something. A bomb will tear a building into bricks, but finding bricks every time after a building explodes does not help identify the cause. Suppose it ended up eventually that the causal source was a novel virus epidemic, say N1H1, instead of social media or the post-2008 economic mess: it wouldn’t help much if people stopped using their social media. I don’t support social media usage for other reasons that are easier to quantify and assign causality, including the waste of time, but I understand the severe limitations of correlations and the differences to causality. Medical research has suffered greatly from errors in causality occasionally dismissing partial self-therapies due to observed correlations, whereas the careful delineation of causation is one of the key ingredients of what made physics such a mature science over the centuries. It is of course hard to try causal experiments for understanding the root of epidemics, and in this case any attempts for causality in therapies are also challenging.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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The trends in increased mental illness, suicide and the unraveling social fabric pre-date social media. Bowling Alone was written in 2000. These are mostly economic issues manifesting itself in all sorts of negative social ways.

But they don’t predate the mass electronic media that began with the radio, television, and into many-to-many computer information systems.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

#47
The author is way overselling how controversial Haidt's claim is.

- The effect of social media at a societal level isn't something that can tested experimentally. And like all non-experimental research, results depend heavily on modeling methodology (for example, the meta-analysis linked by the author is literally just a regression of facebook DAU on life satisfaction polls [1]). As a result there will NEVER a universal consensus, same as with most "macro" level studies in social sciences. If you wait for researchers to reach an agreement, you will wait forever.

- The most credible research I've seen on this is this quasi-experimental paper [2]. Since the timing of Facebook's rollout was staggered across schools, it can be used as a natural experiment. Schools should've seen declines in student mental health that correspond with the date of Facebook's rollout on their campus, which is indeed what happened.

- The effect of using social media at an individual level (as opposed to a societal level) IS known and it is very clearly negative. See [3] for an example.

- Most importantly, the fact is that mental health and suicide rates have been rising significantly since exactly when social media gained popularity (mid-to-late 2000s). The effect is global so you can't blame country-specfic policies. And the rise is most significant with demographics most exposed to social media (young people, especially girls). There's not a single other explanation that makes sense. Frankly, I think people are afraid to admit that social media is the problem because so many people are tech addicts and don't want to admit that their own addiction is part of the problem.

[1] https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/10.1098/rsos.221451

[2] https://pubs.aeaweb.org/doi/pdfplus/10.1257/aer.20211218

[3] https://www.aeaweb.org/articles?id=10.1257/aer.20190658

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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since when is gender dysphoria a made-up mental disorder?

The disorder itself is not made up, which is clear from my comment where I stated that it's a relatively rare mental illness (therefore acknowledging it's real), but it becomes made up if an individual who doesn't have that disorder pretends to have it in order to appease a group or belong to a group, thinking having that disorder will raise their social clout.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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I always wonder when an "epidemic" gets reported if things really have changed or if we just recognize it better. When I grew up, we had a lot of kids (including myself) with problems like depression or not fitting in in other ways. Back then they were just labeled as "slow", "stupid" or "difficult". Nobody thought about mental illness or ways for addressing these issues.

Youth suicide rates are going up, I think that's quite objectively measurable.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db471.pdf

Not proof that social media is behind it of course.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to make sure I understand what you're saying, someone who identifies outside of the gender binary has a mental disorder?

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How did you arrive at this conclusion?
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