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Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

#22
The way in which this topic is discussed is endlessly infuriating because:

While indeed, social media and specifically content algorithms (both in the present where they decide which content people see, and in the future where they may indeed create it entirely) are certainly worthy of scrutiny with regard to many mental illnesses, and the ongoing exploitation of the attention of young people especially by figures such as Andrew Tate are doing demonstrable, objective harm to tons and tons of young kids, and the entire notion that simply by virtue of making an account a child can, by default, access the entire breadth of content available on any of these sites, for zero money, with zero notification of their parents, etc., is certainly one that IMO doesn't get nearly enough time in popular discussions as to how we've simply shotgunned all of this into the faces of kids for decades now, with precious little data about what it does to them and it's only accelerating...

THEN, when that conversation happens, it's to explain of all fucking things, anxiety and depression. Not body image issues, not rampant misogyny in young boys, not the growing slice of the crowd that "fails to launch" and remain stuck with mom and dad long after it's traditional to do so, no, none of those things, just anxiety. Anxiety which is a perfectly normal and understandable thing, IMO, to experience in a period of history that's got, in a non-exhaustive list:

- A biosphere on the brink of collapse, and no one in power taking it seriously

- War in Europe involving multiple international powers and one of the larger nations on the planet, which seems like it could incredibly easily boil over into World War III

- Multiple ongoing ethnic cleansings and/or genocides

- The rise of authoritarian fascist movements in several countries

- The rise of unchangeable super-corporations that run more of our lives than ever with zero oversight

Like, as an adult, who has SEEN some shit, I have to meter my intake of world news to avoid entering a depressive state in which I cannot function. I have already had a vasectomy because this world is not one I want to bring children into, and my wife got her tubes tied, because there is a non-trivial chance that she won't have the ability in a few years to do so and feels similarly. And it's all well and good to say "well the 24 hour news cycle is probably behind that," maybe? But maybe if said news cycle ever had anything but the worst shit you've ever heard of to report, maybe that would be less of a contributing factor?

I dunno, this just sucks. This incurious response by the dominant media of "well it can't be that the world we're leaving them is fucking awful, it's gotta be those pesky iPhones" is so dismissive and shitty.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

#23

Seems more plausible to me that young people are just realizing they will be inheriting the consequences of decades of selfish leadership and they are reasonably worried about the future. The narrative that social media is the cause and not the obvious looming climate change, war and wealth inequality is frustrating.

Maybe. But also I've become a massive history nerd and I can't name a single period in the modern world without serious objective problems. There were wars and diseases and nasty politics and crises and injustices and environmental catastrophes aplenty. Our current slate is serious business, but not uniquely so.

Based on the evidence available to us, what the little doomscrolling box has done is drive us crazy and actually make it harder for societies to act on these problems.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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I always wonder when an "epidemic" gets reported if things really have changed or if we just recognize it better. When I grew up, we had a lot of kids (including myself) with problems like depression or not fitting in in other ways. Back then they were just labeled as "slow", "stupid" or "difficult". Nobody thought about mental illness or ways for addressing these issues.

Not fitting in is not a mental illness. And this attitude is behind the prevalence of many mental illnesses today. We've gone from a society that embraced difference to one that claims to embrace difference while mandating sameness. TikTok, Instagram, Facebook, etc, are all toxic for this reason.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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Seems more plausible to me that young people are just realizing they will be inheriting the consequences of decades of selfish leadership and they are reasonably worried about the future. The narrative that social media is the cause and not the obvious looming climate change, war and wealth inequality is frustrating.

The world had much bigger and more imminent problems in the past. People didn't dwell on them collectively in the same way.

I don't mean to be glib, but you are in denial. Nuclear war is more likely now than since the early cold war, China is ready to invade Taiwan, climate change is poised to weaken or complete disrupt the Gulf Stream, America is months away from electing an insurrectionist as president, buying a house is a pipe dream for most Americans...

How could you see that as a young person and not feel at least a little hopeless?

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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I always wonder when an "epidemic" gets reported if things really have changed or if we just recognize it better. When I grew up, we had a lot of kids (including myself) with problems like depression or not fitting in in other ways. Back then they were just labeled as "slow", "stupid" or "difficult". Nobody thought about mental illness or ways for addressing these issues.

>I always wonder when an "epidemic" gets reported if things really have changed or if we just recognize it better.

Suicide and emergency room visits for suicide attempts among teenagers are also up, and also on exactly the same post-2010ish timeline.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

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I think it's the worst for teenagers and kids, but what about everyone else! The famous quote "comparison is the thief of joy" is attributed to Theodore Roosevelt, and social media is essentially about constantly comparing yourself to others. I have yet to meet a single person who has taken an extended social media break (or given it up altogether) who hasn't reported a substantial improvement in their mental state and wellbeing.

Re: Is social media behind an epidemic of teenage mental illness?

#28

Seems more plausible to me that young people are just realizing they will be inheriting the consequences of decades of selfish leadership and they are reasonably worried about the future. The narrative that social media is the cause and not the obvious looming climate change, war and wealth inequality is frustrating.

Maybe. But also I've become a massive history nerd and I can't name a single period in the modern world without serious objective problems. There were wars and diseases and nasty politics and crises and injustices and environmental catastrophes aplenty. Our current slate is serious business, but not uniquely so. Based on the evidence available to us, what the little doomscrolling box has done is drive us crazy and ac…

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