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Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Finished just in time to praise the coming AGI god.

There is already a former church in Barcelona that now houses a supercomputer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barcelona_Supercomputing_Cente...

That thing is just begging for a 007 cameo.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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I feel like the only person in the world who was thoroughly underwhelmed by it and really don’t see how its future space requirements for a staircase can be justified. This isn’t me trying to be edgy, I like cathedrals, this one (and his general style) just left me cold. Duomo in Milan was far better imo.

The true beauty is in the inside.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Looking at the surrounding building of the Sagrada, just makes me wonder again, what the hell happened to modern architecture. Modern architecture has destroyed our cities. It's hard to find a building build after WO2 that's actually pretty, let alone an entire neighborhood. Nothing compared the historic cities of Europe. In a time when it's cheaper then ever to build, they've not been able to build anything even clo…

Do you mean “Modernist”?

Art Nouveau, Gaudí’s dialect being Modernisme, was a movement which aimed to democratise and modernise architecture and design compared to previous periods.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been not in Rome only since Vatican City came into existence in 1929. It's been in Rome every single year before then. Saint John Lateran is also not in Italy [1] due to an extraterritoriality treaty in 1929, part of the same treaty that established Vatican City. By the way, that church is exactly 1700 years old this year. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Archbasilica_of_Saint_John_Lat...

I should have said it's why it can't become the cathedral of rome.

I don't know whether this is correct, as the Vatican itself falls into the Rome diocese and has no separate one.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diocese_of_Rome

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Looking at the surrounding building of the Sagrada, just makes me wonder again, what the hell happened to modern architecture. Modern architecture has destroyed our cities. It's hard to find a building build after WO2 that's actually pretty, let alone an entire neighborhood. Nothing compared the historic cities of Europe. In a time when it's cheaper then ever to build, they've not been able to build anything even clo…

Swaminarayan Akshardham in New Jersey is new and beautiful. Probably noteworthy that it is also a religious building. I think ugly modern buildings are a problem of aesthetics and ambition, not one of finances or possibility. Old buildings on American college campuses are wonderful; new ones are dreadful yet certainly much more expensive, even inflation-adjusted.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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It's amazing if you haven't gone, especially when sunlight streams in through the windows. I saw a quote while I was there that was something along the lines of, "Gaudí is not an artist with whom posthumous collaboration is possible." A couple minutes walking around the church is all that's needed to confirm that notion.

I've tried to explain to people what that sunlight through the upper stained windows does to the light in that huge room but failed. It is like the light around you is alive. I think I stood there for five minutes silently just taking it in.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

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Does it matter when it has been called like that for more than 12 centuries?

Well there's a lot of people with the family name King, but you know, they still have to play (and win!) the fancy hat game to be actually granted royal rights.

In that case it is different because it is/was a building used by the french church. Not some random one named like this by someone with no relation to the church.

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I spent most of the first 30 years of my life surrounded by and friends with one flavor of deeply religious Christian or another (if my high school had had an 'interfaith' club, the faiths would have been 'Baptist' or 'Dutch Reform'), including Catholics. I say that to point out that the only reason I know there's something special about 'cathedrals' as opposed to other churches is because I read a bit of trivia once…

> I say that to point out that the only reason I know there's something special about 'cathedrals' as opposed to other churches is because I read a bit of trivia once about what counts as an English city. If that trivia was that a cathedral is required to make a city, or that the presence of a cathedral makes a place a city, then that is _wrong_, though commonly believed. It was the case during the 16th century, kind…

Yeah, I should have specified that I was making no claims as to the modern accuracy of the trivia.

Re: Barcelona’s Sagrada Familia will be completed in 2026

#270

Looking at the surrounding building of the Sagrada, just makes me wonder again, what the hell happened to modern architecture. Modern architecture has destroyed our cities. It's hard to find a building build after WO2 that's actually pretty, let alone an entire neighborhood. Nothing compared the historic cities of Europe. In a time when it's cheaper then ever to build, they've not been able to build anything even clo…

Mass urbanization, raising wages, labour saving construction methods and mass produced materials. I think dutch modern architecture does an alright blending blending constraints and modernism. Sagrada Familia is not a model for mass development. That said, I do love me some blood equity monumentality. It would be "neat" importing 10,000 cheap labourers, train them up on traditional masonery techiques and build some more monuments.
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