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Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

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Post by jamesgeck0 »

bobsy wrote: post #39

I don't like this "Free" business. It doesn't make sense and the complete lack of pricing info really puts me off. So I play around with this, like it and choose to stick with it. They then introduce uncompetitive pricing.. I just wasted my time. They do not need to give exact pricing - they might not know at the moment - but they should at least give an overview of what they plan to do. > We will keep this free plan…

They might be holding off on announcing pricing until they see get enough real-world usage to determine what it'll cost to provide the service. Even Google underestimated with App Engine, and came out of beta with an unpopular price jump for some people.

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

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Post by wmf »

ique wrote: post #8

How can this be free? If I host a massive application here, will they shut it down or rate limit or how can this work?

The software is free for you to use to build your own cloud. If you're not a cloud provider you're still going to pay (for production at least).

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

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Post by peterwwillis »

scottostler wrote: post #48
0xbadcafebee wrote: post #46

If you don't like the idea of relying on RedHat to play with this tech, remember that it is Open Source. Download it, use it, heck make a business that builds on it. https://github.com/openshift/crankcase https://github.com/openshift/os-client-tools https://openshift.redhat.com/community/wiki/build-your-own (I will say though: they make it extremely easy to get started and I really like using OpenShift so far. I've n…

FWIW, heroku does. The first heroku slice for a project is free, with the caveat that it'll be spun down during periods of inactivity. I imagine that most hobby users of heroku (say for a weekend hackathon) aren't paying anything.

Ah, I hadn't seen that. Thanks!

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

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Post by mhurron »

bergie wrote: post #37
eli wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oy, not this again. I agree that could be written better, but it's not all that different from Heroku: "...you give Heroku a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such Application for the sole purpose of enabling Heroku to provide you with the Heroku Services."

That "for the sole purpose of enabling Heroku to provide you with the Heroku Services" makes quite a difference.

> for the purpose of providing the Preview Services

Is it really that different?

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

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Post by 286c8cb04bda »

dagw wrote: post #40
Ryan_Shmotkin wrote: post #29

Tsk tsk.. ruby 1.8.7 by default

and python 2.6 and PostgreSQL 8.4 and Perl 5.10. They definitely don't seem to be aiming for the "cutting edge" crowd.

Redhat stopped targeting the "cutting edge" demographic about 10 years ago. They enlist them as QA for their real customers now.

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

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Post by mhurron »

dagw wrote: post #40
Ryan_Shmotkin wrote: post #29

Tsk tsk.. ruby 1.8.7 by default

and python 2.6 and PostgreSQL 8.4 and Perl 5.10. They definitely don't seem to be aiming for the "cutting edge" crowd.

It is obviously running RHEL 6.2 default packages. Probably a better idea than a full OS upgrade every 6 months.

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

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Post by rplnt »

bobsy wrote: post #39

I don't like this "Free" business. It doesn't make sense and the complete lack of pricing info really puts me off. So I play around with this, like it and choose to stick with it. They then introduce uncompetitive pricing.. I just wasted my time. They do not need to give exact pricing - they might not know at the moment - but they should at least give an overview of what they plan to do. > We will keep this free plan…

> So I play around with this, like it and choose to stick with it. They then introduce uncompetitive pricing.. I just wasted my time.

No, this is not Google AppEngine. The platform is opensourced. You can host this "cloud" on your own servers or rely on some 3rd party provider.

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

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Post by rplnt »

jballanc wrote: post #20

If you're not paying, you're the product.

Paying for what now? They won't host app for free, that's for sure. But I don't see how having the platform opensourced can hurt you as a customer. Whether you choose Red Hat or someone else.

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

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Post by prplhaz4 »

sgdesign wrote: post #43
bobsy wrote: post #39

I don't like this "Free" business. It doesn't make sense and the complete lack of pricing info really puts me off. So I play around with this, like it and choose to stick with it. They then introduce uncompetitive pricing.. I just wasted my time. They do not need to give exact pricing - they might not know at the moment - but they should at least give an overview of what they plan to do. > We will keep this free plan…

The problem with free stuff is the lack of support. If I mess something up and my site crashes after hitting the HN front page, I want someone to throw money at until things work again.

That is likely where the introduction of pricing plans comes in. Redhat is still in business (ie, making money) because they support the enterprise usage of their products, and do it well.
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