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Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

#31

Post by eli »

T-A wrote: post #25

From the ToS ( https://openshift.redhat.com/app/legal/site_terms ): "you give Red Hat a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through the web site" That makes me a little nervous.

Oy, not this again. I agree that could be written better, but it's not all that different from Heroku: "...you give Heroku a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such Application for the sole purpose of enabling Heroku to provide you with the Heroku Services."

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

#32

Post by pja »

T-A wrote: post #25

From the ToS ( https://openshift.redhat.com/app/legal/site_terms ): "you give Red Hat a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through the web site" That makes me a little nervous.

Those are the terms of use for the website, not the OpenShift service aren't they?

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

#33

Post by jwarzech »

amalag wrote: post #3

I tried openshift a few months ago for Rails. A real pain in the butt. They dont have simple deploy like Heroku. Even heroku can be time consuming in the beginning to get right, openshift was even more complicated. It may work better for Java I don't know, looks like they are right on the bleeding edge with support for Ruby 1.8.7.

Thank you for posting your experience trying it with rails, I agree deployment of a non-trivial app to heroku can be a pain the first time but once you get everything working its a breeze for subsequent deployments.

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

#35

Post by jwarzech »

MatthewPhillips wrote: post #21
jamesu wrote: post #19

I have yet to find a service as straightforward as Heroku. Cloudfront comes close... but i get the feeling especially when looking at the documentation that Heroku have really put in a lot of effort into making a simple to use application platform.

Dotcloud does it for me. I'd love to support RedHat though.

Never heard of Dotcloud before, anyone have experience hosting a decent size app with them?

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

#36

Post by pmjordan »

Kudos wrote: post #28
diminish wrote: post #24

Do we have any major computing player remaining without an app cloud offering or plan?

Apple?

iCloud has developer APIs - all your code just happens to run on the OS X and iOS clients (which are distributed via the App Store, which sits in the cloud).

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

#37

Post by bergie »

eli wrote: post #31
T-A wrote: post #25

From the ToS ( https://openshift.redhat.com/app/legal/site_terms ): "you give Red Hat a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any Content which you submit, post or display on or through the web site" That makes me a little nervous.

Oy, not this again. I agree that could be written better, but it's not all that different from Heroku: "...you give Heroku a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such Application for the sole purpose of enabling Heroku to provide you with the Heroku Services."

That "for the sole purpose of enabling Heroku to provide you with the Heroku Services" makes quite a difference.

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

#38

Post by noveltyaccount »

wnm wrote: post #17
ique wrote: post #8

How can this be free? If I host a massive application here, will they shut it down or rate limit or how can this work?

the preview is free and has a limit: "The developer preview supports up to 3 gears per user. You have a quota of 40,000 files, 1GB of storage, and 512MB Memory per gear. It is free to use and you can run your application indefinitely. If you need to increase this quota, please mailto:openshift@redhat.com with your username, domain and Application URL." from: https://openshift.redhat.com/community/faq/how-many-applica…

https://openshift.redhat.com/community/faq#t2n9495

Where can I get more information on Pricing ?

To get more information on the pricing and timing of a paid version of OpenShift please send an email to openshift@redhat.com

Re: OpenShift by Red Hat

#39

Post by bobsy »

I don't like this "Free" business.

It doesn't make sense and the complete lack of pricing info really puts me off.

So I play around with this, like it and choose to stick with it. They then introduce uncompetitive pricing.. I just wasted my time. They do not need to give exact pricing - they might not know at the moment - but they should at least give an overview of what they plan to do.

> We will keep this free plan for the foreseeable future. The free plan allows...

> This free plan will exist while we develop and test the service. As the service becomes stable we will be introducing paid plans and you will be asked to upgrade.

These 2 statements make sense to me. The fact they mention nothing about pricing on their site confuses and annoys me.

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