See, he even left a suicide note. Clearly he was thinking about suicide. Case closed. /s
Maybe it's an old trick used by law enforcement - play dumb, let the suspect make stupid mistakes
'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#452Earlier quoted context omitted.
Fwiw, the dog whistle _is_ the call to action. It's mildly amusing that the connotation has inverted though.
“Trainers may use the whistle simply to gather a dog's attention, or to inflict pain for the purpose of behaviour modification.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dog_whistle Seems to go both ways, but without a doubt it gets the animal’s attention.
My point is that “oh, that's a nazi dog whistle” has been so overused that people have now come to associate the term with “signal that people think signifies something to another group, but which doesn't”.
Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#453I am incredibly skeptical of the hypothesis that this might be a murder. Asking a few key questions makes it clear how dubious it is: Most importantly, who's gun was it? If it was someone else's gun, sure, it's a murder, but I think we'll find that the gun was Barnett's. And if so, we have to ask, how did the murderer manage to kill Barnett with his own gun? How did the killer get into the truck? We can assume the ki…
Pure speculation but I could see a situation where he was told, 'Off yourself in a public place with cameras or we will do x,y,z to your loved ones.'
Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#454Earlier quoted context omitted.
Firing a gun leaves residue on your hands etc. They can tell whether you fired it
I'm not a trained killer, but I have watched some movies. To account for residue, just place the firearm in the corpse's hand, point in a random upward trajectory and pull back on the dead person's trigger finger. Optionally, replace the spent bullet in the gun's magazine. I feel you would have come up with this same solution had you needed to.
It is far, far easier to just carry a small phial or swab of cordite residues and copper fines that you then apply to the back of the hand between thumb and forefinger, where swabs are taken. No screwing around.
Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#455Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't know anyone who doesn't believe he was killed. It's a narrative of the popular culture. eg Clinton's bj in the whitehouse or Xi Ping disappearing people or any organization that does an internal audit to find no wrongdoing.
> It's a narrative of the popular culture Amongst idiots. > eg Clinton's bj in the whitehouse A thing which happened, was admitted by Clinton, and proved by DNA evidence. Epstein's suicide is different because the evidence overwhelmingly points to suicide, and people are either ignorant or unable to think logically.
> > It's a narrative of the popular culture
> Amongst idiots.
Amongst culture. Doesn't matter that you don't agree.
> A thing which happened, was admitted by Clinton,
Clinton's BJ was in popular culture before the conviction. Pointing to a legal case is moving the goalpost.
> Epstein's suicide is different because the evidence overwhelmingly points to suicide,
It is not and does not. Good luck with whatever.
Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#456Earlier quoted context omitted.
This would necessarily apply to the investigation, as well.
And would make the two guards who admitted falsifying reports… the worst patsies in history? And presumably the FBI and DOJ are in on it too? And the camera footage showing nobody entered his block is fake too? It's so achingly dumb. HN has a really awful conspiratorial leaning these days, it's completely baffling to me.
> And would make the two guards who admitted falsifying reports… the worst patsies in history?
Maybe in 5 or 10 years, they get paid off. History teaches that truth isn't available immediately or at the time. The world is a rough place and I can wait to be convinced. As patsies, they are possibly the best, given the outcome today.
> And presumably the FBI and DOJ are in on it too?
Now you're just reaching.
> It's so achingly dumb.
Ah, the sideways name calling. Good luck with that.
Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#457Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not "Boeing" in its official capacity, but it has a lot of executives and shareholders, only one of which needs to have the hubris to think they can get away with it. That seems a lot more likely.
Yes with their stock at a near record low for the decade, now is certainly the time for Boeing's largest shareholders (Vanguard and Blackrock) to take decisive action by inexplicably murdering someone five years too late to make a difference, and who - if left alive - could have potentially been the single most effective means for the shareholders to take revenge on the executives responsible for the company's demise…
You're not responding in good faith. It just takes one person--one out of thousands of people--who is thinking criminally instead of rationally. Of course it's not going to be "Vanguard" (again not a person!) But it might very well be a low-level VP who thinks they will go to jail if this person is allowed to testify.
And so statistically this seems a lot more likely than this otherwise stable person committing suicide for no reason and after having an explicit discussion with their family about it.
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#458Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#459Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps the death of Jeffrey Epstein shows that this sort of thing does happen in the West. I know the case is not of the same kind, but the perpetrator was very likely a corporate type trying to protect their reputation, which is at least close.
All joking aside, was there anything in the Epstein case to indicate foul play or is it just a meme? I can't find anything reputable.
> is there anything in the Epstein case to indicate foul play
We have no evidence. It is more that Epstein knew a lot of bad things about some of the most powerful people in the country. It makes sense that they would have wanted him killed, or even that they would have wanted to fake his death to make the court case go away. People who would kill to save themselves would be just as likely to kill a drifter and give that body to the coroner, along with very clear threats to stay quiet.
Of course we have no evidence, we can only speculate. But this is exactly the kind of thing people at these power levels will do, as we know often people at this level will kill thousands of people if it suits them.
Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death
#460Earlier quoted context omitted.
I used it as an example of polling, as I thought it was merely an interesting poll result, but I never said I had any given opinion of the source. I looked up the Certus Insights poll you've mentioned, which also had interesting results. The results were that 37% believed it was likely suicide and 35% believed it was likely murder. That is a 51.3% vs 48.6% split for those who did not respond that they were unsure. Th…
It isn't interesting or useful because conspiracists fail to interpret "don't know" or "unsure" appropriately given the context of polling. It doesn't mean "I have reviewed the facts and I am undecided". > Certus poll found that over 30% each of Democrats, Independents and Republicans believed it to be murder. I believe the Certus poll found that of those who believed him to be murdered , that was the split along pol…
The sentence that you snarkily attempted a grammatical correction on, does not contain a grammatical mistake. Considering the text of your comments contained in this exchange, with the sparse attempts at employing correct grammar, I'd recommend against attempts at grammatical correction like this in the future.
Since it is not clear that English is your first language due to your poor grasp of my comment, the sentence in question contains "it" in reference to the circumstance of the death, as an object of the verb "believed", not the person of Epstein. The phrase "it was murder" is a complement to the verb "believed", meaning that subject of "Democrats, Independents and Republicans", had an belief that what occurred (it) was murder.
Also, the percentages I mentioned, which were cited in the linked page, do not represent the split along political lines, but represent a separate percentage for each, as I said. Since you also don't seem to recall elementary arithmetic, 40% + 32% + 33% = 105%, not 100%.