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'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by AndrewKemendo »

Everybody understands that corporations use cartels to do their dirty work, right? Go work high level at an international commodities company and you’ll find that doing business with “the underworld” is required and that comes with connections to other capabilities

I often see people say corporations arent as big of a problem compared to government because government has the ability to arrest and kill people.

The idea that corporations are some gentle thing that don’t have murderous coercive capacities is beyond outdated

Go and look at how corporations have co-opted local police forces to protect their businesses as the first order requirement of the police force. Best Buy, Walmart etc all have hired “off duty” cops for decades.

The goal of the existing global economic and political structure is to protect business - full stop.

https://money.cnn.com/2015/12/09/news/shell-companies-crime/...

https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/philmatier/article/Busin...

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by dolmen »

lukan wrote: post #191
dullcrisp wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do wonder what happened there. CEO texts the chief communications officer that someone posting online needs to be taken down, chief communication officer takes that literally and relays the order to the head of security?

Well, how do you take down some blog, if there is no legal base for it, because all the content was obvious legal? If there would have been a legal angle, they would have send out lawyers letters instead. That was apparently not an option, so crime was the only way to go. And that no one at the top gets prosecuted for this, is quite disappointing.

> Well, how do you take down some blog, if there is no legal base for it, because all the content was obvious legal?

We will never know the answer because the chief communication officer choose to contact the security department instead of the legal department.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by Supermancho »

rcxdude wrote: post #282
georgespencer wrote: post #70

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If you believe Epstein was murdered you are in a tiny, tiny, tiny minority of very gullible or very simple minded people. Upon a cursory review of both the facts of the matter and the very best arguments conspiracists can copy and paste, it is self-evident that he killed himself.

It's not a tiny minority, alas. It's pretty popular theory (doesn't make it any more correct, of course).

I don't know anyone who doesn't believe he was killed. It's a narrative of the popular culture. eg Clinton's bj in the whitehouse or Xi Ping disappearing people or any organization that does an internal audit to find no wrongdoing.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by dolmen »

hughesjj wrote: post #185
raizer88 wrote: post #104

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Boing is so entrenched with defence contractors that any one of them could have killed him to preserve existing contracts to be canned do to some "deep restructuring" due to the trial.

I really wish Boeing defense got spun off, them being under the same leadership is a threat to national security. The infection is only growing as they continue to share leadership. Could the union elect/nominate new leadership, or are they corrupt these days as well?

Airbus has the same structure with feets both in civil aviation and the defense industry, like if nobody could make business without those ties.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by Supermancho »

ImHereToVote wrote: post #143
ummonk wrote: post #123

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And the cameras just happened to be out of order when he chose to kill himself of course.

It's easy when your world view hinges on the fact that responsible adults are running the world.

This would necessarily apply to the investigation, as well.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by dolmen »

hayst4ck wrote: post #207
hughesjj wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really wish Boeing defense got spun off, them being under the same leadership is a threat to national security. The infection is only growing as they continue to share leadership. Could the union elect/nominate new leadership, or are they corrupt these days as well?

> I really wish Boeing defense got spun off, them being under the same leadership is a threat to national security. Don't look at their board of directors unless you want to fully realize the magnitude of what you don't yet realize you're saying!

https://www.boeing.com/company/general-info/corporate-govern...

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by timthelion »

sfn42 wrote: post #253
siriaan wrote: post #69

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Well a university in New Zealand got the ok to blast pigs in the head with a Glock for a blood spatter study - https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/284438/how-did-shooting-...

I thought firing a gun would leave gunpowder residue on your hands

I'm pretty sure there are other ways of putting gun powder resedue on someone.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by dolmen »

roenxi wrote: post #275
kashunstva wrote: post #121

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> normal people motivated by money… strangle car owners and steal their cars… Those are not in any way normal people. If someone makes it to 16-17 y/o without acquiring that fundamental moral lesson, I would not characterize them as normal, whatever the cause of that failure.

About 3% of the male population has Antisocial Personality Disorder (ie, sociopathy). That could be described as normal - we're talking 1 person in 33. You'd probably meet one at a party. Nature no doubt builds some people to be killers. Now most of them aren't going to kill anyone because that would be dumb. But that is a pretty decent pool of people who would consider the idea for money.

Boeing has about 150,000 employees (from the 2022 company report). US workforce is 23% women.

What if one of the 3465 males had its job at risk because of Barnett?

150,000 * (1-23%) * 3% = 3465

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by pydry »

generic92034 wrote: post #236
pydry wrote: post #224

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I don't know. He never talked about a captivity switch. Perhaps he is an object lesson that one should create a "switch escalator". Perhaps a dead man's switch used in captivity could also potentially make captivity worse and remove what last remnants of hope he has. I suspect if he pulled the switch now then a lot of the sympathy he got for exposing a war crime might go out the window.

The purpose of a dead-man switch is that an action automatically happens, if a person cannot trigger that action themselves anymore. This is not required in any kind of normal captivity, where the captured still can talk to lawyers and other visitors. So, frankly, if Assange is not using the leverage (using in the sense of using it as a threat) my best explanation so far is that he does not have any (at least not any…

The insurance file is still encrypted.

There are still lots of angry articles about how it will PUT LIVES AT RISK if it is unencrypted.

The powers that be appear to be walking a tightrope between not exposing their own assets and trying to make an example out of people who expose war crimes while trying not to put lives at risk.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by pydry »

lostlogin wrote: post #308
pydry wrote: post #279

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Did you read the title of this thread?

A convenient death for Boeing/USA versus a century of documented political assassinations. Russia’s state killings are vast, millions? The two are not equal.

>Russia’s state killings are vast, millions?

If you go far enough back in time, sure.

Then again, if you go far enough back in time (not that long, truth be told), the US committed genocide against the Native Americans.

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