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'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by alphabettsy »

max_ wrote: post #131

Reading the comments here is now making me even more skeptical about society. It really looks like; It is a waste of time to take risk yourself and expose unethical practices conducted by the powerful. Because, A) The masses don't really care (I expected riots and protest). B) You may mysteriously die. C) Your death instead of sparking an outrage will mostly be labeled a "conspiracy theory". Given these three items,…

I’m disappointed that so many people immediately jump to conspiracy instead of more common/likely conclusions.

He already gave his deposition. And the information is on the record. It was also him suing Boeing, he was not a witness for the government or some other party in these proceedings.

I’m 100% supportive of a thorough investigation.

I’m 100% against running with the idea that this man was murdered without any evidence of it.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by alphabettsy »

everforward wrote: post #318
topspin wrote: post #148

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IANAL. However: SC civil law Rule 32 USE OF DEPOSITIONS IN COURT PROCEEDINGS: (a)(3) The deposition of a witness, whether or not a party, may be used by any party for any purpose if the court finds: (A) that the witness is dead; or etc... This aligns very closely with the Federal rule on the same: Federal Rules of Civil Procedure Rule 32. Using Depositions in Court Proceedings (4) Unavailable Witness. A party may use…

He only made it through the first day of his deposition, he still had another day to go. Anything he was going to say on day 2 is now in the wind. They might also be able to have the deposition thrown out if Boeing wasn't there or had requested a different date (though that would have obviously terrible optics). My guess is that he was killed, but I don't have a guess whether it was some kind of plot by a higher up a…

He was suing the company for defamation. He was not some witness in a proceeding against Boeing and the government or something.

This isn’t a criminal proceeding. With his death, it essentially goes away regardless.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by TeaBrain »

georgespencer wrote: post #70
windowshopping wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I did say "appears," but this is some Epstein levels of "coincidence." I'm not really a conspiracy-theory type, but I mean c'mon. Does anyone believe that Epstein killed himself? Makes me think of this little stand-up comedy snippet. https://www.reddit.com/r/StandUpComedy/comments/14rcr7n/cons... "I understand not believing in most conspiracy theories, but NONE? You really think the government's batting 100? They ain…

If you believe Epstein was murdered you are in a tiny, tiny, tiny minority of very gullible or very simple minded people. Upon a cursory review of both the facts of the matter and the very best arguments conspiracists can copy and paste, it is self-evident that he killed himself.

I don't have a strong opinion on the matter, but it does not seem accurate to categorize this as a fringe theory. According to a Insider poll conducted in 2019, over 40% of respondents thought that he was killed and less than 20% were convinced that he committed suicide. I also think it is inaccurate to categorize the issue as having sharp clarity in either direction as you are doing.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by wahnfrieden »

windowshopping wrote: post #29

This is kind of mind-blowing to me. First case in my lifetime where a US corporation appears to have murdered someone for political reasons. Has this happened before? I assume it has but it's very rare.

Coca Cola paid death squads to murder workers who were organizing

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by koonsolo »

AndrewKemendo wrote: post #321

Everybody understands that corporations use cartels to do their dirty work, right? Go work high level at an international commodities company and you’ll find that doing business with “the underworld” is required and that comes with connections to other capabilities I often see people say corporations arent as big of a problem compared to government because government has the ability to arrest and kill people. The ide…

There is also another thing that comes into play: rich people go to rich places and come into contact with other rich people. Not all those rich people are honest business men, so to speak. So connections into shady things is not that difficult if you hang around in those social circles.

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by chikitabanana »

dylan604 wrote: post #165

Might be a good idea to make these kinds of statements in a more public manner on the socials. @ing the company your commenting against as well as any local police, FBI, or other pertinent TLAs. Let the opposition know they are no longer operating in the shadows. Of course the TLAs won't actively do anything about it proactively, but maybe it'll give more credence than the grieving friend's say-so later??? Have it in…

TLA = three letter agency?

Re: 'If anything happens, it's not suicide': Boeing whistleblower before death

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Post by aydyn »

b-side wrote: post #135
aydyn wrote: post #80

Every single person in the previous thread who ridiculed others for saying that suicide was _not_ the most likely explanation needs a serious re-evaluation of their priors.

I don't think people are misaligned on the P(suicide) it is just due to the recent behaviour of Boing that P(murder|Boing) is elevated.

Not the probability of suicide prior, the probability of being murdered as a whistleblower prior.
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