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Pilot of Boeing flight says he lost control after instrument failure
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Re: Pilot of Boeing flight says he lost control after instrument failure
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Maybe what most people are truly concerned is the Boeing Narrative? Increasingly more than just a narrative
Do you know that or do you just feel it? If you know it, how do you know? Is that knowledge reflected in the reporting? If you camped avherald watching for incidents, and you had an inciting incident like the door plug (indisputably a major story!) to start from, could you create the same narrative for Bombardier? I think you could.
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These issues are killing people in hundreds. You are right that national security is more important, but world is not binary. Current execs could easily say rot in jail while company keeps churning whatever hardware military wants, nothing mutually exclusive there. Now what will happen with civilian avionics is another story, for me they lost my trust for good but I & my family choices are insignificant forces on the…
I'm not suggesting national security is more important, just that Boeing's leadership won't learn any lessons from this as they'll keep getting bailed out with sweet MIC contracts. I would probably feel much safer if we didn't have a MIC that is constantly trying to play a nuclear game of chicken with political adversaries. 'Russia will not use nukes because Russia has not used nukes' - what kind of effed up logic is…
Re: Pilot of Boeing flight says he lost control after instrument failure
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Even with zero controls, and even if one or more of the various computers decided spontaneously to restart, I would expect the plane to continue flying the way it did before the incident rather than going into an (apparently) uncommanded descent? I mean, we had that with the 737 MAX, so I wouldn't rule it out, but it sounds suspiciously like the pilot messed up and is trying to blame the airplane. However I'm no spec…
But what control input could a pilot make that abruptly produces significant negative gees for just a couple of seconds? Other than the bland references to "technical issue" it sounds like clear air turbulence. (Although one possible mistake could be that the weather radar did warn of it and the pilot didn't react?)
Re: Pilot of Boeing flight says he lost control after instrument failure
#115A blip of zero controls - not ideal! Although hearsay from a passenger hardly sounds reliable. The thing I'm wondering is: are quality issues happening elsewhere? Or are we caught in an anti-Boeing hype cycle? I'm skeptical whenever the media really grabs hold of a narrative that's so one-sided.
Re: Pilot of Boeing flight says he lost control after instrument failure
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Flight control incidents that cause injuries are not hard to find on avherald. I guess I'm not saying it isn't worth reporting. Before the Boeing Narrative set in, these kinds of stories did get reported! But now they're tied into this long-running Boeing arc, and it's frustrating because there isn't enough in the story to know what's really going on.
Could you link a few with injuries anywhere near this size? I feel like that’d be national news, so it’s surprising to hear it’s happening often.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/18/us/hawaiian-airlines-injuries...
Re: Pilot of Boeing flight says he lost control after instrument failure
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Do you know that or do you just feel it? If you know it, how do you know? Is that knowledge reflected in the reporting? If you camped avherald watching for incidents, and you had an inciting incident like the door plug (indisputably a major story!) to start from, could you create the same narrative for Bombardier? I think you could.
Does it matter? At this stage it's just ridiculous that there's no more uproar towards Boeing or even direct intervention into it. Maybe because it's one of the 2 disfuntional members of the duopoly at the foundation of global air transit with massive geopolitical consequences if major changes are suggested.
Re: Pilot of Boeing flight says he lost control after instrument failure
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Right now Boeing gets much more attention on anything that goes bad. Can't but say the company brought it on themselves. That being said that was a noteworthy incident regardless.
Nothing I'm saying has anything to do with sympathy for Boeing.
Re: Pilot of Boeing flight says he lost control after instrument failure
#119They're down ~27% YTD. Something tells me that there's going to be a "come to Jesus" meeting soon in the C-suite's future that results in the deployment of a golden parachute.