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Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by ProjectArcturis » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:49 PM UTC

jajko wrote: post #107

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Or the blackmailing by Hungary and Turkey.

Its funny with Hungary, Orban is such an incompetent ruler that currently Hungary is paying way above market prices for gas from Russia. So much for being friends with benefits with russia. You can see how it all is a series of really not that smart moves for Hungary for a long time, borderline treason. And one point generally - please lets stop calling whats happening in Ukraine in any other way than War. putin's wa…

This comment really illustrates the hollowness of the "NATO expanded too aggressively" claim. NATO didn't force any of these ex-Soviet countries to join. They ran to join NATO as soon as they could. They'd experienced living with the Russian boot on their neck, and they were eager to join a collective security organization to prevent it from ever happening again.

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by guappa » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:49 PM UTC

MaxPengwing wrote: post #140

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Sweden and Finland have been in the EU for almost 30 years. Sweden joining NATO does not really change the geopolitics of the Baltic.

Given that we (Sweden) have been the preferred partner with Norway for NATO winter training exercises since the 1980s and our entire military strategy was based on "Nato will protect us if Putin invades" you are not wrong. What changed was USA having people like Trump and the Republican party talk about not protecting NATO countries anymore. It made us realize that we can't continue to count on US help as the premise…

France and Germany rearming… what a great idea!

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by [deleted] » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:50 PM UTC

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Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by charles_f » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:50 PM UTC

Mountain_Skies wrote: post #9

bilekas wrote: post #4

This is great news and NATO benefits hugely from this. I have to hand it to putin for bringing further solidarity across Europe and NATO.

How does NATO benefit?

Guaranteed access to Ikea furniture in times of war.

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by barbazoo » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:50 PM UTC

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Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by hinkley » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:50 PM UTC

rsynnott wrote: post #8

lawn wrote: post #2

Finally. I'm going to celebrate by opening a bottle of red wine from Ukraine, seems fitting.

I was about to say that it'd beat a bottle of wine from Sweden, anyway, but felt the need to fact-check my joke, and apparently Swedish wine is a thing!

There’s a little wine country just off of Lake Superior. The water buffers the temperatures enough to keep grapes happy.

I know the Baltic is probably colder than Lake Superior, but it sounds like it works anyway.

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Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by seydor » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:51 PM UTC

alienicecream wrote: post #111

Adding another western European country that's under no threat from anyone to NATO isn't going to do anything. We should be adding backwards countries that share borders with or are targets of major enemies, like Georgia and Taiwan. You can't control the world if all you're doing is protecting yourself and your buddies from yourself and your buddies. We need to get Israel in NATO so that the next time Hezbollah fires…

It's a bit of a big ask to demand that slovenian soldiers to die for Taiwan , or the portuguese to kill more palestinians. international relations dont disappear by joining NATO, and the more it expands the more likely it is to increase discord.

Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by dralley » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:51 PM UTC

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Re: Sweden Is a NATO Member

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Post by sspiff » Thu, Mar 07, 2024, 5:51 PM UTC

dralley wrote: post #64

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Sure. The US Military Industrial Complex loves to share.

What does Gripen have to do with the US military industrial complex? The US isn't the ones sending F-16s anyway.

The parent comment is referring to the US pressuring all European NATO members to abandon plans to acquire Saab or Dassault jets in favour of its own F35.