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Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS
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Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS
#282Earlier quoted context omitted.
Given the DMA, Apple are required to allow people to develop other App Stores. If they can kick off anyone who decides to do that, then the law is entirely pointless (and the EU commission are likely to be upset).
Sure, they are required to allow people to develop other App Stores. They can also add any number of other policies which you probably run afoul of several times a day. Then terminate you for that. You can still develop your app store, you just can't break all the rules to develop your app store.
> Then terminate you for that
And then the EU takes them to court and fines them billions of dollars.
The rest of the world doesn't have to stand still. They can just confiscate Apple's money using threat of government force.
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#283Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple has been dragged kicking and screaming into more consumer friendly positions since the iPhone was released. It took years for them to simply switch to a more open charging port standard.
Before the iPhone and maybe blackberry the majority of phones used random proprietary charger. The iPhone was the first mass market consumer phone to come with a cable that connected to a standard usb charger.
My Sony Xperia phone had a cable that connected to standard usb charger, this was before the first iPhone. From my memory Moto Razr 2 used micro usb b cable to standard usb. There where plenty of phones before iPhone that had charging cable that connected to standard usb charger.
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#284Earlier quoted context omitted.
No no, you see the restrictions are there for YOUR protection. "Won't someone please think of the children?"
"Anytime someone puts a lock on something you own, against your wishes, and doesn't give you the key, they're not doing it for your benefit"
HN's collective opinion: "Hey, if you don't like Apple's walled garden, the you can giit out! [and move to Android]"
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#285Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Apple be maximally aggressive From an observation standpoint seeing how Microsoft behaved in the 90's and onward, they (Apple) are behaving very similarly - almost exactly with what MS did for Windows back then. I have a growing distaste for Apple corporate/mgmt each day even though I am surrounded by their devices.
And like MS they will just pay a few billions in PR and Foss to make a come back in 10 years and all will be forgiven. They will get away with this, we let them. They have no incentive to be better.
Microsoft already notified EC that they stop their browser shenanigans and will ship windows without their browser pre-installed to save on endless lawyering game they can’t win.
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#286Earlier quoted context omitted.
what are their margins? an $18B fine starts to make it seem possible that it would be profitable to not sell there.
Or, you know, they could just comply with our laws...
How much of that revenue is threatened by DMA? If they stand to lose most of their revenue or profits by complying with the laws, why bother?
It seems crazy that Apple is going to die on this hill, but I’m really curious what the accountants are sending the execs. I could see them willing to gamble a chunk of revenue to prevent every other market from trying to write similar laws, especially if they’re losing that revenue regardless.
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#287I've spent ~$7000 on Apple products last year. I think it'll be $0 this year and going forward. Tired of this kind of crap. (Not only this, but Apple's behavior with EU, etc.)
Who you going to replace them with that's better/same level of ecosystem/user experience? Genuinely interested.
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#288Why are investors seemingly blind to the fact that Apple is fighting tooth and nail to protect their App Store revenue (while looking like jackasses in the court of public opinion and pissing off regulators and their relationship with developers) because if the App Store money in their pocket dries up, all hell breaks loose because all of their hardware products are no longer growing. The stock will crash and the exe…
I think the cracks will start to show the longer big apps don’t come to Vision Pro. Apple has spent the last decade pissing off developers and partners, and just when they need them the most - during the fragile time of getting an entire new platform off the ground - they are doubling down on being assholes. Every single review I’ve seen mentions that Netflix and YouTube aren’t on Vision Pro. One of the biggest appli…
From it's issues I bet you it's infighting from a group trying to kill the vision pro from apple.
Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS
#289Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple has been dragged kicking and screaming into more consumer friendly positions since the iPhone was released. It took years for them to simply switch to a more open charging port standard.
Before the iPhone and maybe blackberry the majority of phones used random proprietary charger. The iPhone was the first mass market consumer phone to come with a cable that connected to a standard usb charger.
I’m pretty sure my motorolas had a usb charger on device side before iPhone was a thing .
Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS
#290> According to Epic, Apple reportedly told the company that it’s “a threat to their ecosystem.” Note they're not saying Epic is a security threat or has a product that endangers Apple customers. Instead, they're calling Epic, the company itself, a threat to Apple's ecosystem . This quote makes sense, if you replace "ecosystem" with "monopoly."
To be more specific, it's likely that Epic is a threat to Apple's business/technical ability to steer/shape/profit from the iOS ecosystem.