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Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Re: Apple terminates Epic Games developer account, calling it a 'threat' to iOS

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Post by jsnell »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #143
benced wrote: post #135

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This is flatly false. Schiller emailed Sweeney asking for assurances and Sweeney responded with: > Epic and its subsidiaries are acting in good faith and will comply with all terms of current and future agreements with Apple, and we'll be glad to provide Apple with any specific further assurances on the topic that you'd like. Without reply, Apple summarily terminated their developer account a week later. It seems obv…

> there haven't been any threatening noncompliance Do we have neutral sources for these claims and emails? Apple said Sweeney threatened to breach contract and didn’t repudiate in private. Epic claims it didn’t threaten and did repudiate. We’re in a he said she said absent independent sourcing.

Epic provided screenshots of the emails. Are you seriously suggesting there's even the tiniest chance they're forgeries?

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Post by odiroot »

ergonaught wrote: post #102
hellcow wrote: post #83

Clearly the recent 1.8B Euro fine the EU levied against Apple didn't send a message. Perhaps the EU needs to ratchet it up by an order of magnitude.

More likely, Apple needs to withdraw entirely from the EU and see what happens.

I'd love to watch that!

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Post by selectodude »

lapcat wrote: post #192
selectodude wrote: post #184

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The EU is Apples least profitable market.

Totally wrong. Europe is Apple's 2nd biggest market. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/pdfs/fy2024-q1/FY24_Q1_Consol...

And it’s their least profitable.

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Post by drawnwren »

lapcat wrote: post #177
ergonaught wrote: post #102

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More likely, Apple needs to withdraw entirely from the EU and see what happens.

Apple's last quarter results: $30 billion in net sales from Europe, their second largest market behind the Americas. https://www.apple.com/newsroom/pdfs/fy2024-q1/FY24_Q1_Consol... The idea of leaving Europe is nonsense. Apple is a publicly owned corporation, and Tim Cook would be immediately dismissed for such financial recklessness.

what are their margins? an $18B fine starts to make it seem possible that it would be profitable to not sell there.

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Post by FirmwareBurner »

binarymax wrote: post #193
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #186

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Which lunatic? I heard it form a tech youtuber and on HN.

Trump

Why does it matter who said it? Tim Apple is nothing offensive. Should we all avoid loving dogs because Hitler and Saddam used to love dogs?

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Post by sircastor »

__loam wrote: post #149
mattbrewsbytes wrote: post #92

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> Apple be maximally aggressive From an observation standpoint seeing how Microsoft behaved in the 90's and onward, they (Apple) are behaving very similarly - almost exactly with what MS did for Windows back then. I have a growing distaste for Apple corporate/mgmt each day even though I am surrounded by their devices.

Apple has been dragged kicking and screaming into more consumer friendly positions since the iPhone was released. It took years for them to simply switch to a more open charging port standard.

While I think they should've switched earlier, it's often forgotten how angry people got when Apple switched from the 30 pin connector to Lightning. There were piles and piles of devices that used the 30 pin connector - it had been on every iPod, iPad and iPhone for nearly a decade. Entire hotel chains had iPod Docks in every room. Switching cost isn't limited to just goes in the device. It doesn't surprise me that Apple was hesitant to switch the port again.

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Post by usrusr »

BudaDude wrote: post #108
mountainriver wrote: post #84

I may get rid of my iPhone, this is just horrible continued behavior on Apple’s part. Nothing can be worth the damage this is doing to their reputation

I have been feeling the same way. Apple has been dropping the ball a lot lately. This whole malicious compliance thing they are doing with the EU is childish. Apple 100% should have lost the court case to Epic the same way Google did.

When your stock is traded like the stock of a company with a stranglehold on a huge market it can press seemingly at will, what can you do other than pressing?

Publicly traded companies are mercenaries bound to the highest bidder, nothing they can do about it.

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Post by bustling-noose »

pimterry wrote: post #151
bustling-noose wrote: post #55

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The investors aren't interested in Apple selling more phones each year than previous. The investors are interested in people using the iPhone as a yearly or bi yearly upgrade cycle product in their life and giving Apple money without much bother and accepting it as a part of culture, especially American. I wouldn't have thought India, a country that is so price sensitive, would be a place you find so many iPhones. Bu…

> I wouldn't have thought India, a country that is so price sensitive, would be a place you find so many iPhones. But Indians love what America does and follow them blindly. This is extremely wrong. https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/mobile/india suggests Android has 95%+ market share in India (and largely unchanged for years). https://www.statista.com/chart/22702/andoid-ios-market-share... lists India as one…

I said 'find so many iPhones' I didn't say they were leading. Apple sells millions of units in India and with a 5% market share in a country where average annual household income is about 5 iPhones you must realise that this is a very significant and important share. I see a lot of resell market customers preferring iPhone 7 and 8 at around 100$ over similarly priced Android phones. the top 5% income households generally buy new iPhones and that trickles down to the masses after 3-5 years in the resell market. Thats how it works here as a lot of labour population seems to also have some old iPhone.
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