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Re: Meta outage

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> plenty of people writing auth code will take the stance all failures are presented the same as a bad password or non-existing username Those people would be wrong. You can take all unexpected errors and stick them behind a generic error message like "something went wrong" but you should not lie to your users with your error message.

It's about not leaking sensitive information. If you have different messages for invalid username vs invalid password, you can exploit that to determine if a user has an account at a particular service. "Invalid credentials" for either case solves this problem. But sure, let's report infra failures different as "unexpected error" Now, what happens if the unexpected error is only when checking passwords, but not usern…

what if, if one service doesnt respond at all or responds with something that doesnt fit an expected format that it would if working correctly, the whole thing just says "sorry, we had an error, try again later"? if it has to check both at the same time, and cant check them independently, wouldn't that solve the vulnerability? or am i missing something? totally understandable if i am, i just want to learn /gen

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Yea, the wife came to me in a bit of a panic that her Facebook account got hacked. I tried logging in to FB to check if I had been unfriended, and I also got errors indicating my password was incorrect. My FB password is 96 bits from /dev/urandom in a GPG-based password manager I wrote for myself a couple decades ago. So, no my password wasn't wrong, and I'm not a big enough target for someone to put enough effort in…

> My FB password is 96 bits from /dev/urandom in a GPG-based password manager I wrote for myself a couple decades ago. We have the same approach to password management!

that's actually really cool, i hadnt considered writing my own password manager but i feel like it'd be a fun and fairly useful project, did it take you particularly long to do? i'm interested in giving it a go :D

Re: Meta outage

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Hope it stays broken. Imagine? People would blink, confused, and slowly start to wake from a decade-long stupor.

how many people, realistically, use it daily? I think not a lot

> I think not a lot

You have to be kidding me right?

Re: Meta outage

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Facebook accounts != individual humans.

Even if half that, still crazy, no?

And that’s just Facebook. Pretty much everyone outside of the us depends on WhatsApp to communicate. From regular people to businesses.

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Interesting how such large scale outages can ONLY happen because of human errors, in this case by a poorly thought out heuristics. Like, a literal explosion could hardly achieve this level of disruption when there’s physical failover protections everywhere.

What about cyber attack? It's super Tuesday...

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That's from 2010. edit: https://www.cnn.com/2010/TECH/social.media/09/24/facebook.ou...

You're absolutely right, thanks, my mistake trusting random URLs on HN/the internet!

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I can imagine it being different in a city. I'm in a fairly quiet suburban area. One time I heard a loud boom. A few hours later I saw a neighbor outside and asked if he'd heard it and if he knew what it was. He told me a house a few neighborhoods over had exploded. I was a bit skeptical of it but he turned out to be right.

exploded? the house... exploded? like, a gas leak or something?

Drug lab is more probable than a gas leak.

Sources:

https://www.statista.com/statistics/942043/laboratory-incide... - meth lab incidents are down to about 900/yr and have been far higher in the past (presumably because the labs have moved to things besides meth)

https://rpgaspiping.com/blog/critical-safety-tips/gas-safety... (286 natural gas incidents per year) - I've tried to find a more credible source for this number but keep seeing it cited in various places and have no better source, higher or lower.

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Man I would lose contact with a lot of friends if that were to happen

Are they really your friends then?

Sure. Maybe they moved away. Phone numbers and addresses do change. Maybe they are not close friends, but friends nevertheless.
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