Last I checked, you needed to actually own a switch and a downloadable version of the game to use yuzu... has this changed?
Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
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#572Earlier quoted context omitted.
In that case, Linux creators would be liable for not taking any steps within the Linux kernel preventing you from pirating a game on the platform.
No because the primary use of Linux is not piracy. Whereas for emulation it is. The whole point of emulation is that you want to play content for which the original hardware no longer exists. And so there is no harm being done to anyone. This situation is obviously quite different because Nintendo is being harmed.
Your OS emulates. The companies that made the chips you run them on emulate their own hardware. The company in the headline emulate their own video game hardware and sell it to their customers.
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#573Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's not illegal to play games that you already purchased and own. Piracy is just a convenient scapegoat to hobble emulation.
I'd argue that you should reverse your stance. It's illegal to pirate games. Being able to emulate things you purchased is a convenient scapegoat for people to pirate games.
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#574It's unbelievable how much I loath Nintendo these days. Hard to believe I use to love them growing up. I got a Nintendo switch last year from Walmart. The f*ing came used (apparently someone in the store played some Zelda in it, put it back in the box and sold to me as new). Walmart said they couldn't do anything when I emailed them about the issue. Anyways, the switch came with no games. Nothing. Zero. So, naively I…
Don't forget that Nintendo put Gary Bowser -- a man in a wheelchair, with two kids -- in prison for a year. Now he owes 30% of his income to Nintendo for the rest of his life. He made Switch mod chips. Until Nintendo walks that back, I will pirate all future nintendo games and donate the cover price to Bowser's gofundme.
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#575It's unbelievable how much I loath Nintendo these days. Hard to believe I use to love them growing up. I got a Nintendo switch last year from Walmart. The f*ing came used (apparently someone in the store played some Zelda in it, put it back in the box and sold to me as new). Walmart said they couldn't do anything when I emailed them about the issue. Anyways, the switch came with no games. Nothing. Zero. So, naively I…
good stuff champ.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#576Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's actually multiple arguments with zero proof there. - they didn't prove that Yuzu contributed to piracy (and since the amount of piracy tools on the Switch itself that's far from obvious that Yuzu is a first choice) - they didn't prove that the leak itself lead to a loss of revenue. And that's also very hard of an argument to make considering that this game was a huge commercial success.
If a device's only use involves copyright infringement, it's illegal to sell or distribute in the USA. That's how they went after cable descramblers and, less successfully, VCRs in the 80s. Since getting actual Switch game data necessarily involves violating the DMCA, Nintendo's lawyers will have an easy time showing that the only way yuzu can be useful is if the user violates copyright law, thus making the emulator…
None of that is related to Yuzu though, Yuzu can only play what you give it.
And no I disagree, the fastest way for me to deplop a switch game is to use an emulator such as Yuzu, it's a much faster feedback loop than a devkit and I'm sure there's a lot of indie games developped or tested this way. So there's also other purposes to this software.
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#577Speculating here but it feels like part of Nintendo's beef is the popularity of PC form factors that look like a Nintendo Switch. Most notably the Steam Deck but there are loads of them. In 2022 Nintendo starting taking down Youtube videos showing Steam Decks running Switch games: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-started-blocking-v... And last year went after Dolphin (GCN/Wii emulator) as soon as they announ…
>In 2022 Nintendo starting taking down Youtube videos showing Steam Decks running Switch games: https://www.resetera.com/threads/nintendo-started-blocking-v ... What are they supposed to do? Leave videos about piracy of their own IP untouched? It baffles me how people believe they have a fundamental right to pirate Nintendo software without consequences.
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#578Nothing Nintendo can do can shut the emulation genie... because China. A lot of Chinese sff pc/handheld producers (GPD/Minisforum/Ayaneo/Beelink etc)[1] are now creating device with the explicit understanding that these devices will be used for emulation, and are creating devices as such. even if Yuzu is banned...Chinese will take over, and nothing any american/japanese game manufacturers can do to stop it. ---- [1]…
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#579Things like this and companies like Nintendo must be stopped, it's both morally and legally correct to emulate when people actually owns the machine and cartridges.
Disagreed. I'm guessing that 99.99% of Switch emulator users do not own the cartridges. They're stealing, which is not only morally wrong, but legally wrong. Nintendo has the right to protect their IP and they have the right to make money. Furthermore, I disagree in general that it's morally and legally correct to emulate something you purchased.
Can you elaborate? I see no reason why that wouldn't be the case.
Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu
#580Earlier quoted context omitted.
> unlike prior emulators, Yuzu risks running afoul of DMCA anti-trafficking provisions for circumvention devices and software that uses circumvention devices This is interesting, it'd be great to have a link to explain this matter more deeply.
Sure. Just look up the DeCSS controversy which got the creator of a DVD ripping software arrested and barely avoiding extradition, or the 09 F9 controversy where the MPAA attempted to censor a number from the internet. This provision in the DMCA has been most often used against developers of unauthorized DVD copying software, Blu-ray copying software, etc; and the force of the legal argument has been well proven prev…