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Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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> No because the primary use of Linux is not piracy. Whereas for emulation it is. It's not piracy to play a game that you've backed up on different hardware than the original developers intended.

My understanding is that it actually is (or at least probably is) illegal to create and play your own backups...

Depends on jurisdiction. In France and germany, it is totally legal, you are even allowed to acquire a backup through the internet if you so choose.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Steamdeck also has a gyro for this kind of mechanic.

By the by, I recently switched to using a Dualsense as my SD external controller and found that the gyro controls make for an excellent desktop and M+K game controller. Surprised I didn’t think to check earlier.

FYI this has been possible since the DS4.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Nah, there's no circumvention here, on Yuzu's part. There may be parties involved in circumvention, but the emulator neither aids nor publishes any aid for that. The emulator REQUIRES a user to first have a legitimate copy. If the user illegally obtained that copy, they didn't obtain it via Yuzu, and they didn't use Yuzu to get around the encryption that is in the file. The emulator is just using the key on the file,…

> but the emulator neither aids nor publishes any aid for that. Page 17 of the actual court document indicates otherwise: https://www.scribd.com/document/709016504/Nintendo-of-Americ... > The current iteration of YUZU-EMU.ORG does not feature a live link to Lockpick—which had been hosted on GitHub—because recent enforcement action by Nintendo alerting GitHub to the illegal nature of the software caused GitHub to take…

Well... I wouldn't be surprised if the "agents" turn out to be regular users of the Discord - an important detail would be if their moderators took any action.

Archived: https://web.archive.org/web/20231128132815/https://rena21.gi...

Lockpick download link is now 404.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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When the game isn't be sold any more, along with the console, emulation makes sense. But the switch emulation for at least 2 years now has been more than good enough to run games of a current gen system, and you're absolutely kidding yourself if you think any meaningful percentage own the game. The emulator also requires Nintendo data they're not actually allowed to ship (there's a number of resources to download it…

> for at least 2 years now has been more than good enough to run games of a current gen system

To be fair that's impressive but nothing new. I 'member running N64 games with my Voodoo card in 1999 when GameCube wouldn't be out for two more years: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UltraHLE

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Yes, better than on the Switch. (now I'm awaiting legal action from Nintendo)

Get out of here. Seriously? I’ve been playing older system games pretty well on it but switch felt like it would be too much a load.

Emu Deck is the quickest way to set up emulation. The rest requires google.

Not all games are stable/playable/without glitches.

Mario Galaxy Wii + HD texture packs look like its from 2025 compared to the re-release on the Switch.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Nintendo lost out on future game and console sales from that person.

Can you really claim to be a future customer of a product when you can get and are getting the value the product provides without having to pay for it? It's funny to me how every time the topic of piracy comes up, the world suddenly becomes so full of people who totally like giving companies money out of the sheer goodness of their hearts. And then by next week when it's time for another post about how open source ma…

Yep. My last Steam purchases include Cities: Skylines, Graveyard Keeper, Mini Metro, etc. All games I bought after I pirated and played them for a few hours. If I can't pirate a game, then I won't buy the game. Exceptions include games with a proper demo, like The Stanley Parable, or games that're love on first sight, like Lethal Company.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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This won't matter. The goal will be to run them out of money. It's an open source project and they most likely don't have the capital to fund any sort of lengthy lawsuit.

> The goal will be to run them out of money. They're already making $30k/month on patreon and you can easily foresee that this legal action will cause a call to arms for even greater funding, if that was indeed their goal they could have targeted the much smaller ryujinx and set a precedent.

30K is nothing when it comes to paying for lawyers. This money will be gone by the time anyone enters a courthouse.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Nintendo lost out on future game and console sales from that person.

They didn't lose out on any of those things – at worst, they lost the potential that someone who recently played their game without paying for the hardware or software would pay next time. "This game was so great that I would consider paying next time, but I'm definitely not going to pay this time" doesn't seem, to me, like a credulous position.

We're talking about Nintendo. They literally don't sell their older games and consoles. Your only options are the (sometimes severely overpriced) 2nd hand market and piracy.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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I am not part of that scene, but I am sympathetic to emulation. Is there a notable difference between Yuzu and other switch emulators? I wonder if there are other reasons than Patreon ( money changing hands ) or there were other considerations?

Yuzu has amazing compatibility. I'm guessing it's getting too good for Nintendo. Their concerns with TotK are not without merit. I played it on Yuzu (on PC) because it was a much better experience than on the switch. Within a few days of the game being out, there were resolution and fps patches which made the game run much better. That said, I'm not sure how Yuzu can be blamed for TotK piracy. Guessing Nintendo is th…

> That said, I'm not sure how Yuzu can be blamed for TotK piracy.

>> I played it on Yuzu (on PC) because it was a much better experience than on the switch.

I blame you, actually, (somewhat jokingly) because I own TotK for Switch, and ended up putting it away really quickly because the resolution in handheld mode looked awful. I actually couldn't stand playing the game in handheld mode while my wife took over the TV for her shows.

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