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Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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Hrmm. Can you explain further? What sort of inaction would make them legally liable?

If you are aware of illegal activity being committed, have preventative measures available to you and choose not to use them then you're complicit. Similar to the approach that have been used in various jurisdictions against torrent sites.

Yuzu did not allow totk to be ran until after the release date. Not sure what else they could have done.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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And enough usage in the general public to have "politician X will ban uber" be a negative campaign position. Same reason AirBnB works despite many laws to the contrary. If you get popular enough that the public will vote against people who threaten to enforce the law, out of a desire to keep using the product, you win. It's a race to get too big to be shut down.

There's something hilarious about your framing of "get too big to be shut down". You actually said "if you get popular enough that the public will vote against people who threaten to enforce the law". So someone builds a product that the public likes, something they demand that politicians allow, and somehow this is "too big to be shut down". Do you forget that modern democracies pretend that their authority derives…

> The law is not sacred. Get off your high horse.

OK, let's take a vote to take your stuff and share it around.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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I'd say most piracy is people with an actual console that they have modded to load pirated games.

Impossible to say. Downloading yuzu and watching a YouTube video to get roms going is easier than obtaining a modded switch, that one is certain.

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Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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A ton of people seem to think the DMCA is the end of Yuzu, but I believe it's actually its salvation, particularily Section 1201(f): (1)Notwithstanding the provisions of subsection (a)(1)(A), a person who has lawfully obtained the right to use a copy of a computer program may circumvent a technological measure that effectively controls access to a particular portion of that program for the sole purpose of identifying…

My impression was that EFF and the like were bearish on 1201(f) because of that last part, "to the extent any such acts of identification and analysis do not constitute infringement under this title." and "to the extent that doing so does not constitute infringement under this title." because that essentially forecloses any practical application of 1201(f).

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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I recently pointed out that Nintendo is not selling new wii consoles, so people cannot play Mario Galaxy 1 or 2 unless they buy an used console.

Apparently they released the game in some limited version they don't sell anymore.

It makes zero sense, it's like they are asking people to pirate their games.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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It's unbelievable how much I loath Nintendo these days. Hard to believe I use to love them growing up. I got a Nintendo switch last year from Walmart. The f*ing came used (apparently someone in the store played some Zelda in it, put it back in the box and sold to me as new). Walmart said they couldn't do anything when I emailed them about the issue. Anyways, the switch came with no games. Nothing. Zero. So, naively I…

No issue that you described comes from Nintendo. And you could have downloaded ~100 free games from the eShop. https://www.dekudeals.com/games?filter%5Bprice_range%5D%5Bmi...

That list is misleading you. Just looking at the first page I can instantly spot:

Assassin's Creed - not free, must own the full price game collection.

Animal Crossing: New Horizons Island Transfer Tool - not a game.

BLAZBLUE CROSS TAG BATTLE SPECIAL TRIAL - a demo.

Capcom Arcade - free to download but you need to buy the games within.

Control - time limited demo of a fullprice single-player game. requires internet access.

Coloring Book titles - arguably not games.

Crunchyroll - not a game.

Cyber Protocol Prologue - appears to be a demo.

F-Zero 99 - great game, requires a paid Nintendo subscription.

...and a load of free-to-play titles that manipulate people to spend money.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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There were tons and TONS of ride sharing apps that got shut down as Uber was becoming popular due to regulatory violations: Sidecar, Juno, Poparide, Heetch, Taxify, and there are probably hundreds that got shut down in local markets. Plenty of companies get shut down for regulatory violations, or employee mistreatment. Pointing at some extreme outliers is nothing more than a form of selection bias.

Why didn't Uber though? Is it just enough money to buy the right lobbyists and lawyers?

Because competition is bad for business (good for customers for sure), but I repeat, BAD for business.

Why would you want 10 companies competing, bet your investment in one, or "spread it" like a loser, when you can pool ALL your money and make sure ALL the profit accumulates into one giant enormous company ?

Uber in this case happens to be the company chosen for big money.

Re: Nintendo is suing the creators of Switch emulator Yuzu

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I don't think Nintendo's argument that Yuzu's primary use case is piracy holds any merit. Nintendo is quite literally a part of the reason why people pirate Switch games they already own. What do you have to do to legally play Switch games on Yuzu? Oh, idk... * Jailbreak your Switch. * Dump your decryption keys. * Dump your games. * Never update your Switch ever again. * Pray Nintendo doesn't shove an update down you…

I feel like you’re undermining your own argument here. Yes, it’s exceedingly complex to “legally” play your own games on Yuzu. This bolsters the argument that Yuzu is primarily targeting users of pirated content, because essentially no one would bother doing all those steps you listed.

Of course nobody dumps their own games, but it's really common for people who already own the games to download a pirated copy to play on emulator. That's how I use Yuzu and Citra (which is especially great, so I don't have to squint at the crappy 3DS screens).

Technically illegal, technically "piracy"? Probably! But morally, who cares.

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