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Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by heyoni »

adultorata wrote: post #74
mjr00 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it seems to be a proven technology now. Proven to do what exactly? A solution for which problems? Cryptocurrency had billions invested into it and the most valuable product that came out of it was cartoon apes. There's not a single blockchain that replaced the existing financial system, an area it was supposed to disrupt. There's not a single blockchain in use anywhere in logistics and supply chain, an area the blo…

Good luck sending 10 BTC worth of USD from a US bank to China or Russia, or ANY bank without raising eyebrows and getting your bank account locked/frozen

You don’t send bitcoin to a country! Maybe the act of buying the bitcoin gets your account frozen but certainly not the sending.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by suddenclarity »

coconutpalms wrote: post #37

Raise your hand if you know an actual position at an actual company that was made redundant by ChatGPT, DaVinci, Stable Diffusion or related tech

More and more board games are released with AI generated art. It's still controversial so larger companies are hesitant to join due to the risk of flack on social media but it's definitely a real thing replacing jobs at the moment. Fryx Games that made Terraforming Mars is probably one of the more well-known examples.

Art in general seems to be a high risk occupation because the stakes are low. It's a similar case for stock photography. In the gaming world, Embracer recently fired a bunch of artists with the intent of having fewer people be more productive with the use of AI generated content.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by xboxnolifes »

adultorata wrote: post #74
mjr00 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it seems to be a proven technology now. Proven to do what exactly? A solution for which problems? Cryptocurrency had billions invested into it and the most valuable product that came out of it was cartoon apes. There's not a single blockchain that replaced the existing financial system, an area it was supposed to disrupt. There's not a single blockchain in use anywhere in logistics and supply chain, an area the blo…

Good luck sending 10 BTC worth of USD from a US bank to China or Russia, or ANY bank without raising eyebrows and getting your bank account locked/frozen

This is pretty much trivial.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by GaryNumanVevo »

AI is going to bifurcate the job market. Short of AGI, the current code gen tools seem to be plateauing at a junior SWE level. Any simple tasks that are done by American IT, and couldn't be easily off-shored to India will be AI tasks. Why even bother hiring junior engineers when those tasks will be covered?

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by urbandw311er »

MetalGuru wrote: post #67
urbandw311er wrote: post #11

I am really sorry to whinge but is there any way at all to avoid posting links to tweets? Visiting twitter is such a horrible soul destroying experience. I can’t work out how to full screen the video if it’s even possible. The resolution on the video is too poor for me to be able to read the code. There are ads and troll comments everywhere. It seems to want me to create an account. It’s just horrific. Is there reall…

People post on twitter. It's a thing. Asking to avoid posting links to twitter is ridiculous

Point taken, but I'm not sure that it is so ridiculous. In some cases (obviously not this case) there might be a better source for the article. Or even changing the URL to nitter or similar would help! Keeping the discussions about this sort of thing active and spreading awareness is a valid way of trying to promote long-term quality content on HN rather than preventing it from turning into a cesspool.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by infecto »

dotty- wrote: post #32
xyst wrote: post #27

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HN also underestimated cryptocurrency craze. Yet years later, it is busted. Seeing the same patterns with AI. Every startup is now incorporating “AI” or “deep learning” or “OpenAI” into their decks/motto/pitch. Have yet to see anything worth using beyond the initial hype. Using AI to me is like learning another programming language. Same shit. Different interface.

Is cryptocurrency busted? Sure, it didn't replace the global monetary system, but it seems to be a proven technology now. And sure, it had its crashes, but BTC is up 112% over 1Y, and lots of cryptos have legitimate payment purposes.

As a consumer there is practically speaking zero legitimate payment purposes available to me. Sure there are a couple of niche services taht offer BTC payments alongside credit cards...but my grocery store does not accept BTC.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by Jerrrry »

nradov wrote: post #88
Jerrrry wrote: post #41

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I'm a "KM" "SME" and I can tell you that there is no doubt that every productivity gain in the last year has been $bigcorp employees feeding pseudo-anonymized business requirements and contexts into ChatGPT. OpenAI + any half-assed data broker could easily infer the company, as I am sure they have already done. All hail Microsoft, I am glad I chose the right AI megacorp overload early.

Have there been any measurable productivity gains in the past year?

Glueware and CRM people have been awfully productive, as it's a race to the bottom at this point.

You either let a robot tell you how to do your job better, or someone else will.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by nradov »

Jerrrry wrote: post #97
nradov wrote: post #88

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Have there been any measurable productivity gains in the past year?

Glueware and CRM people have been awfully productive, as it's a race to the bottom at this point. You either let a robot tell you how to do your job better, or someone else will.

How do you know? Can we actually see that increased productivity in any objective economic metrics?

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by Jerrrry »

nradov wrote: post #98
Jerrrry wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Glueware and CRM people have been awfully productive, as it's a race to the bottom at this point. You either let a robot tell you how to do your job better, or someone else will.

How do you know? Can we actually see that increased productivity in any objective economic metrics?

A collection of anecdotal evidence and a nearly in-explainable increase in "trivial" software middle-ware tasks that had been dormant until GPT arrived.

Now that the means, motive, and opportunity are there, combined with the a general uneasiness regarding employment opportunities, gains have definitely been on a sharp uptick.

Whether that's a first-order effect of people using generative models or a second-order effect of people believing they will be replaced by those who do; either way, the pressure is real, and the gains are material.

It may take a larger timespan and more samples, but I have little doubt middleware and other glueware is being rapidly "no-coded" by GPT models on the private computers of contractors.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by gerdesj »

cjbprime wrote: post #77
gerdesj wrote: post #31

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Well, you say we underestimate but are you sure you are not the "underestimater"? Amongst other things, one of the tasks I tried to put ChatGPT to was writing scripts in a not so popular dialect of a very popular language: PowerCLI (PowerShell). Gemini is even worse! The issue is of course the relative lack of PowerCLI vs the huge body of PowerShell generic stuff. Hallucinations include invented function parameters a…

> These things are "only" next token/word guessers. This is precisely the kind of vacuous "this is technology, I know technology, this is simple" hubristic underestimation that's being called out. There is no upper bound to the intelligence of a "next token/word guesser". You can end up incorporating an entire world model to your predictions to improve their accuracy, and arguably this has already happened, to a curr…

"This is precisely the kind of vacuous ..."

So I am devoid of anything? Nice. I slapped "only" within quotes to imply that there is more going on and a lot more complexity than implied by a naked reading of my comment. I'm sorry you missed that.

There is no notion of a bound or even intelligence for a LLM. It is a tool and no more - we know how they work - that is defined and we run our own. We can marvel at what looks like intelligence from the outputs but it isn't that. They can be enbiggened ad-nauseam but I very much doubt we'll get intelligence per se.

You might disagree with my arguments but please don't describe me as vacuous.

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