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Vice website is shutting down
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#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s correct. Only skip-a-heartbeat moment was when aws sent me an email saying that you I have “one or more S3 buckets that allow read or write access from any user on the Internet” But none of my containers had write access. All of them had public read, but yeah, it’s a website and they know this: their own route53 DNS points to the containers. They just sent the same generic mass email to everyone with any publi…
If you don’t have some form of automated throttling, couldn’t that still become costly if a popular webpage started pulling resources from that bucket? If so, their warning could have been phrased better, but isn’t incorrect.
You can put the bucket behind Cloudfront and only give access to the bucket to Cloudfront.
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#313Its sad that Vice feels like they can only gain value from social media and YouTube. I feel like the best part of the internet is dying (good written detailed content), but the worst part of it is surviving and thriving: social media (short lived, low quality, clickbaity, dopamine chasing content).
I think YouTube is the counter argument to this - long form content from passionate people has taken off pretty good there. Perhaps it's just me, but it seriously makes the rest of social media look like an absolute trashfire by comparison.
> I think YouTube is the counter argument to this - long form content from passionate people has taken off pretty good there.
This has downsides on its own. Nowadays there are tons of YT videos that convey useful info in which the same useful info could be conveyed in a 200 words written piece. But no, you have to skip through a 20 minutes video where the signal to noise ratio is extremely low to get the really useful bits.
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#314What a shame, how will I find out about people doing yoghurt from pussy juice?
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Even though I agree with the overall sentiment, in this instance it was PE that destroyed vice in the first place.
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#316My guess is they will go AI generated content. Will pull the content of the website to use and style guide for the AI and prevent anyone else from training AI on their past content. Also I wonder if the lawsuit from New York Times against OpenAI has any impact. I could see new Vice owners try the same thing if New York Times were successful. But also, OpenAI defence is that they did not train on NYT archive but conte…
Why would anyone want AI generated content from Vice, the brand known for direct, novel, firsthand reporting from relatively unknown/inaccessible places? Why would anyone want to read what an LLM thinks North Korea is like? For that matter why do we think anyone will want to read an LLM’s take on anything that has to be grounded in a reality that wasn’t part of its training data?
They don't need the viewer to read the article, just need them to open the article and view ads.
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#317It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)
Site wipes also disadvantage job-hunting staffers who suddenly don't have a public published portfolio to point potential new employers / clients to. Though enterprising staffers may anticipate such moves and archive content as it's published to head off the inevitable.
(I've seen this issue raised on previous site shutdowns, quite probably Gawker.)
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#318Is this actually as dramatic as the title implies? The email says "we will no longer publish content on vice.com." That doesn't necessarily mean they'll pull vice.com offline. Either way, between this and Pitchfork winding down, it really feels like we're entering new times culturally.
Were either site still culturally relevant? Both seem about a decade into their decline
but there isn't any cohesive, structured, insightful cultural commentary replacing them- we're in murky waters and people i'm sure people will feel the squeeze of an uncreative culture even more than they are already
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#319It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)
Leave online for web crawlers to access for free, or take it offline and license access to big data or AI companies…
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#320They ran out of dangerous places to do designer drugs. In all honesty, Vice was a cool outlet for out-there stories for teens and adults alike. Shame it’s shutting down but then again I never supported it.
Channel 5 on YouTube has picked up where they left off.
Yes, it's nice to get real news after so long dealing with fluff. Peter Santenello and Soft White Underbelly are also good to see what the US actually looks like.