My guess is they will go AI generated content. Will pull the content of the website to use and style guide for the AI and prevent anyone else from training AI on their past content. Also I wonder if the lawsuit from New York Times against OpenAI has any impact. I could see new Vice owners try the same thing if New York Times were successful. But also, OpenAI defence is that they did not train on NYT archive but content that was quoting NYT. If I remember correctly VICE had a lot of NYT content that was heavily quoted. Maybe pulling all the content saves them from getting into endless wrangles in the future.
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This is why I post on slashdot. They've passed the test of time (but not UIs, fuck beta). Looks like their first posts in '97 start here: https://slashdot.org/?page=8582 dunno what their december 31st, 1969 posts are after that (errors? intentional de-ranking?) Newspapers have a bad history of "experimenting" with enabling online comments and then deciding the experiment failed and delete them all. You're a newspaper…
The last time I looked at Slashdot comments (2021, give or take) they were low-effort trolls, racist/sexist, or just gibberish. Has moderation improved there or is it still a cesspool?
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#143It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)
> It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway I 100% don't get it when websites with lots of content and good SEO just delete everything. Fatwallet (fuck you Rakuten). Yahoo Answers (hey, I didn't say good content). Even on my own Drupal blogs that I didn't want to maintain/update anymore, I did a giant curl job, recursively regex'd out the login/comment submission fields and dumped them on…
Honest, technical, humorous; Good comment!
Re: Vice website is shutting down
#144It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)
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#146It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)
For example a site that I liked called The Outline stopped publishing content in 2020 and they leave the site online at least for now https://theoutline.com/
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18M YouTube subscribers can sustain a decent business, sure, but not one with 3000+ employees.
What? Why on earth does Vice have 3000 employees? I thought publishing companies long since switched to having all their content creators freelance. Edit: I thought OP was exaggerating, but nope, per this random website they have/had at least 2,300. https://rocketreach.co/vice-media-profile_b5c6f6cef42e0cd9
Vice Media Group is a conglomerate with a bunch of other stuff besides the magazine/website. An ad agency [1], a tv/film studio [2], another film studio [3], etc. It seems like they’ll be keeping a lot of that too. The linked message implies they’re shutting down the ad-supported journalism part of the company and doubling down on contract work.
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Yeah I was about to say, though I'm getting a bit worried that as Andrew grows more successful and grows his operation, the more it will start to resemble a traditional news outlet (much as Vice did in the later years). In any case, I'm hoping once Channel 5 grows big enough they can relaunch Hamilton's Pharmacopeia (though by a different name, of course).
Hamilton is still making great content: https://www.youtube.com/@HamiltonMorris/videos https://www.patreon.com/HamiltonMorris
I know, but I liked the docu format and you can't really tell the same stories with the budget he's operating on.
(I love the Patreon tiers.)
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Don't include the brand in the deal, just the content?
Which then defeats the whole purpose of keeping the bookmarks / URLs / SEO surface alive as the domain is kinda part of the brand if it’s vice.com.
Absolutely. It's all over the videos themselves too.
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#150It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)
The letter didn't say anything about actually taking vice.com offline, only that they'd stop publishing content to it.