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I think YouTube is the counter argument to this - long form content from passionate people has taken off pretty good there. Perhaps it's just me, but it seriously makes the rest of social media look like an absolute trashfire by comparison.

But I don’t like video or podcasts. My brain doesn’t learn that way. I like reading

Same, I really need things written in detail. I can't learn from video. :/

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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People still don't realize how many things from the last fifteen years were LIRPs. Low interest rate phenomena doomed the moment investors can get a halfway-decent yield from fixed-income investments.

Publishers were squeezed out not by ZIRP but by ad networks, iframes in apps and influencers replacing them as the power users of social media

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I know that web security is a hard problem but I can't wrap my head around the fact that static content has the same issue as a Wordpress blog.

That’s correct. Only skip-a-heartbeat moment was when aws sent me an email saying that you I have “one or more S3 buckets that allow read or write access from any user on the Internet” But none of my containers had write access. All of them had public read, but yeah, it’s a website and they know this: their own route53 DNS points to the containers. They just sent the same generic mass email to everyone with any publi…

If you don’t have some form of automated throttling, couldn’t that still become costly if a popular webpage started pulling resources from that bucket?

If so, their warning could have been phrased better, but isn’t incorrect.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Its sad that Vice feels like they can only gain value from social media and YouTube. I feel like the best part of the internet is dying (good written detailed content), but the worst part of it is surviving and thriving: social media (short lived, low quality, clickbaity, dopamine chasing content).

Maybe it will work in a cycle to respawn Vice.

Become more popular with short form content, re-specialize getting better with that, slowly move in long form content, and partially return to where we were.

Some of the content creators I watch say they get click conversions to longer content or streaming via shorts, TikTok, and very short videos. The algorithm seems to be boosting shorter videos .

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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It makes no sense to not let the site online in an archived form, for the posterity It wouldn't even be a significant cost and ads would recoup it anyway There should be a way to donate a website to the Internet Archive so that they run an online archive on it, basically keeping the site frozen forever (rather than relying on the Wayback Machine which has worse UX)

Agreed. Should have some value. Heck I would easily pay 10 000 usd for the site and all content (and im sure others would pay way more).

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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You still have to maintain the domain, and stay on the hook if the site gets overtaken/hacked/defaced.

I know that web security is a hard problem but I can't wrap my head around the fact that static content has the same issue as a Wordpress blog.

The engineering team (that they fired) would have needed to explain that difference in so many details to stakeholders who just wanted to move on.

Re: Vice website is shutting down

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Nothing in that post indicates they are taking it offline, the HN headline is just editorializing. It says Vice is no longer making new content for their Web properties and focusing on other platforms instead like YouTube. There's no way they'd give up the ads dollars they get from he existing stuff... That makes no sense

Those ad dollars will diminish quickly, and pretty soon it will be more expensive to keep the website up than to just take it down.

Hosting a static site behind cloudflare caching should be very low. Doubt it would cost more than 200 dollars.
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