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Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by ezrast »

dotty- wrote: post #40
mjr00 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it seems to be a proven technology now. Proven to do what exactly? A solution for which problems? Cryptocurrency had billions invested into it and the most valuable product that came out of it was cartoon apes. There's not a single blockchain that replaced the existing financial system, an area it was supposed to disrupt. There's not a single blockchain in use anywhere in logistics and supply chain, an area the blo…

Whether or not you agree with the greater philosophical goal of Bitcoin, Bitcoin proved the ability to create a system of value using basically just cryptography and with a built-in reward system to incentivize the decentralization of the network -- and it grew enough that it can now operate as a standalone method of payment. It's an amazing feat. Snowden is correct here: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1759304612…

It had done all that by 2010, no? The real hype was about what would come after.

I don't think the thesis of most Bitcoin critics is that the math and social engineering involved aren't interesting.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by dotty- »

skydhash wrote: post #46
dotty- wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether or not you agree with the greater philosophical goal of Bitcoin, Bitcoin proved the ability to create a system of value using basically just cryptography and with a built-in reward system to incentivize the decentralization of the network -- and it grew enough that it can now operate as a standalone method of payment. It's an amazing feat. Snowden is correct here: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1759304612…

> Bitcoin proved the ability to create a system of value using basically just cryptography and with a built-in reward system to incentivize the decentralization of the network AKA micro transactions in games.

No, because micro transactions in games is a centralized system involving zero cryptography, usually powered by a centralized database by the game developer. Bitcoin is decentralized.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by from-nibly »

FirmwareBurner wrote: post #20
hooverd wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, it's a good thing seniors are hired from the void fully trained. /s

You laugh, but where I live the market for juniors (other than summer internships exclusively for currently enrolled university students) is basically zero right now. Every company is looking exclusively for seniors or at least mid level. They don't care that someone needs to train juniors in order to become seniors as long as it's someone else who has to do it. Companies can stay irrational longer than you can stay…

Who is saying the market is hot for the employees right now? It's dead as a doornail.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by pavel_lishin »

Buttons840 wrote: post #23

If an AI can do this, an AI can also watch my screen and blank out all ads and edit out the sound. The controversy and panic that will happen when such an AI is eventually revealed will be interesting.

I read something about this on Garbageday today:

> Case in point: the Arc Browser.

> For years, The Browser Company has been promising to save the internet. Its Arc Browser is a smart refresh of what a modern gateway to the web should look and feel like and it generated a lot of goodwill with early users. And then, earlier this month, they released their AI-powered search app, which “browses the internet for you.”

> The Browser Company’s new app lets you ask semantic questions to a chatbot, which then summarizes live internet results in a simulation of a conversation. Which is great, in theory, as long as you don’t have any concerns about whether what it’s saying is accurate, don’t care where that information is coming from or who wrote it, and don’t think through the long-term feasibility of a product like this even a little bit.

> But the base logic of something like Arc’s AI search doesn’t even really make sense. As Engadget recently asked in their excellent teardown of Arc’s AI search pivot, “Who makes money when AI reads the internet for us?” But let’s take a step even further here. Why even bother making new websites if no one’s going to see them?

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by from-nibly »

brutal_chaos_ wrote: post #43
coconutpalms wrote: post #37

Raise your hand if you know an actual position at an actual company that was made redundant by ChatGPT, DaVinci, Stable Diffusion or related tech

https://in.indeed.com/m/jobs?q=wayfair&l=&sc=0kf%3Afcckey%28... wayfair laid off a bunch of US IT staff and are trying to build an AI in india to replace workers (I think, based on events and new job opennings). edit:typos adt'l: tbf, AI hasn't actually replaced jobs there yet (afaik)

Trying doesn't count.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by 65 »

xyst wrote: post #27
eden_hazard wrote: post #3

I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

HN also underestimated cryptocurrency craze. Yet years later, it is busted. Seeing the same patterns with AI. Every startup is now incorporating “AI” or “deep learning” or “OpenAI” into their decks/motto/pitch. Have yet to see anything worth using beyond the initial hype. Using AI to me is like learning another programming language. Same shit. Different interface.

A lot of the AI programming things you can do would be easier to either

1. type out yourself 2. copy and paste from StackOverflow 3. find a library that does the thing you want

It's not like CoPilot is any better. It's like when Microsoft and Google tried to force text completion on emails, it just gets in the way and makes me lose my train of thought.

AI is really great for very specific tasks that would be difficult to incorporate into a traditional algorithm. I really like Photoshop's background removal tool for example. But general purpose AI to me is blown out of proportion in terms of hype. Not everything needs iPhone levels of scaling. 3D printing, VR, Web 3, Cryptocurrencies, NFTs, Metaverse, AI. The list goes on. These things have niche use cases. AI is great for a lot of niche use cases (video upscaling, for example). But for general purpose software interaction? Maybe not.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by glhaynes »

dotty- wrote: post #32
xyst wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN also underestimated cryptocurrency craze. Yet years later, it is busted. Seeing the same patterns with AI. Every startup is now incorporating “AI” or “deep learning” or “OpenAI” into their decks/motto/pitch. Have yet to see anything worth using beyond the initial hype. Using AI to me is like learning another programming language. Same shit. Different interface.

Is cryptocurrency busted? Sure, it didn't replace the global monetary system, but it seems to be a proven technology now. And sure, it had its crashes, but BTC is up 112% over 1Y, and lots of cryptos have legitimate payment purposes.

Maybe a better example would be the more general "blockchain". There was all sorts of talk just a few years ago about how it was the most revolutionary technology since the Web and every business was going to be affected by it.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by dotty- »

ezrast wrote: post #51
dotty- wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether or not you agree with the greater philosophical goal of Bitcoin, Bitcoin proved the ability to create a system of value using basically just cryptography and with a built-in reward system to incentivize the decentralization of the network -- and it grew enough that it can now operate as a standalone method of payment. It's an amazing feat. Snowden is correct here: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1759304612…

It had done all that by 2010, no? The real hype was about what would come after. I don't think the thesis of most Bitcoin critics is that the math and social engineering involved aren't interesting.

I don't disagree with you. But the original post was about 1) cryptocurrency as a whole being busted and 2) that cryptocurrency had never provided any kind of value. Those are what I disagree with.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by jameshart »

eden_hazard wrote: post #3

I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

It's actually worse than that.

Why do we need web apps or iOS apps? They're just task specific computer interfaces.

It's possible that this kind of AI tech eliminates the need for task specific computer interfaces at all.

You don't need to tell the LLM to code up a TODO list app so you can sell it in the App Store.

The user doesn't even need to tell an LLM to make them a TODO list app.

Given an LLM that can persist and restore context, the user can just use the LLM as a personal assistant that keeps track of their TODO list.

Whatever the software is that we're working alongside our AI colleagues to build in ten years' time, I don't think it's going to be automated tests for apps and websites.

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