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Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by Jerrrry »

twobitshifter wrote: post #39
eden_hazard wrote: post #3

I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

I would extend that from engineer to knowledge professionals in general. Our specialized tools, strange syntaxes, and invented worlds of code may shield us somewhat, but when you just want expertise and opinion typed out? That’s firmly in the LLM ballpark. LLMs are starting to nail memorization with perfect recall, beating humans. My own memories are always fuzzy and I need emails and notes and books to help me along…

I'm a "KM" "SME" and I can tell you that there is no doubt that every productivity gain in the last year has been $bigcorp employees feeding pseudo-anonymized business requirements and contexts into ChatGPT.

OpenAI + any half-assed data broker could easily infer the company, as I am sure they have already done.

All hail Microsoft, I am glad I chose the right AI megacorp overload early.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by x3sphere »

dotty- wrote: post #32
xyst wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

HN also underestimated cryptocurrency craze. Yet years later, it is busted. Seeing the same patterns with AI. Every startup is now incorporating “AI” or “deep learning” or “OpenAI” into their decks/motto/pitch. Have yet to see anything worth using beyond the initial hype. Using AI to me is like learning another programming language. Same shit. Different interface.

Is cryptocurrency busted? Sure, it didn't replace the global monetary system, but it seems to be a proven technology now. And sure, it had its crashes, but BTC is up 112% over 1Y, and lots of cryptos have legitimate payment purposes.

Well, I hold crypto, but admittedly it's kind of failed as far as payments are concerned.

I used to use BTC quite regularly for payments back in like 2014-2015. But now, it's too expensive to move around due to fees so I just hold it. The same can be said even of ETH - the fees are too high to interact with a lot of the DeFi stuff.

There are 'layer 2' solutions that tackle the fees issue but uptake of these has been slow.

It's why they pivoted to calling BTC a store of value years ago. The payments side of crypto is kind of disappointing.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by brutal_chaos_ »

coconutpalms wrote: post #37

Raise your hand if you know an actual position at an actual company that was made redundant by ChatGPT, DaVinci, Stable Diffusion or related tech

https://in.indeed.com/m/jobs?q=wayfair&l=&sc=0kf%3Afcckey%28...

wayfair laid off a bunch of US IT staff and are trying to build an AI in india to replace workers (I think, based on events and new job opennings).

edit:typos

adt'l: tbf, AI hasn't actually replaced jobs there yet (afaik)

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by tomatohs »

eden_hazard wrote: post #3

I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

We're building an AI Agent that can perform manual testing on feature branches [1]. I can tell you, it works, and it's going to get better, and it's going to happen fast. It's not hard at all for an AI to read text on the screen and click it.

What's amazing is the social impact this has - often people don't believe it's real. It feels like when I had to explain to my parents that in my online multiplayer game, that the other characters were other kids at home on their own computers.

I think it's a matter of denial. Yes, software is made for humans and we will always need to validate that humans can use that software. But should a human really be required to manually test every PR in 10k person teams?

Again, as a founder of an AI Agent for E2E testing, we work with this every day. If I was a QA professional right now, I would watch the space closely in the next 6 months. The other option is to specialize in the emotional human part like in gaming. You can't test for "fun."

1. https://testdriver.ai. Demo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZQxgQ1jt4g

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by serial_dev »

dotty- wrote: post #40
mjr00 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it seems to be a proven technology now. Proven to do what exactly? A solution for which problems? Cryptocurrency had billions invested into it and the most valuable product that came out of it was cartoon apes. There's not a single blockchain that replaced the existing financial system, an area it was supposed to disrupt. There's not a single blockchain in use anywhere in logistics and supply chain, an area the blo…

Whether or not you agree with the greater philosophical goal of Bitcoin, Bitcoin proved the ability to create a system of value using basically just cryptography and with a built-in reward system to incentivize the decentralization of the network -- and it grew enough that it can now operate as a standalone method of payment. It's an amazing feat. Snowden is correct here: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1759304612…

... A solution for which problem...

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by skydhash »

dotty- wrote: post #40
mjr00 wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> it seems to be a proven technology now. Proven to do what exactly? A solution for which problems? Cryptocurrency had billions invested into it and the most valuable product that came out of it was cartoon apes. There's not a single blockchain that replaced the existing financial system, an area it was supposed to disrupt. There's not a single blockchain in use anywhere in logistics and supply chain, an area the blo…

Whether or not you agree with the greater philosophical goal of Bitcoin, Bitcoin proved the ability to create a system of value using basically just cryptography and with a built-in reward system to incentivize the decentralization of the network -- and it grew enough that it can now operate as a standalone method of payment. It's an amazing feat. Snowden is correct here: https://twitter.com/Snowden/status/1759304612…

> Bitcoin proved the ability to create a system of value using basically just cryptography and with a built-in reward system to incentivize the decentralization of the network

AKA micro transactions in games.

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by Swizec »

saurik wrote: post #35
eden_hazard wrote: post #3

I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

If you can automate my job--and I maintain we not only aren't there yet even but still won't be even if you make it so I never have to write another line of "syntax" ever again (as that isn't now and never was the job of a programmer)--you clearly can automate the jobs of most of the value chain above me, all the way up to the limited partners at the VC firms being paid management fees to pick portfolio companies...…

> what to do with an entire civilization of meatbags that suddenly become cost in-effective

Services! All sorts of things are going to become cost-effective that currently aren't.

Want a personal trainer? Motivational coach? Someone to sit next to you slapping your phone out of your hands every time you open social media? Personal runner doing errands? You can afford that now!

We're going to have an ever-shrinking pool of highly critical un-automatable people with an army of support folk keeping them running at peak productivity at all times.

You already see this trend in people who think of themselves as a business. They hire everyone from personal assistants to nannies. All in the name of "Well I make $200/h and there's this chore that costs only $50/h to delegate ..."

Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by [deleted] »

tomatohs wrote: post #44
eden_hazard wrote: post #3

I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

We're building an AI Agent that can perform manual testing on feature branches [1]. I can tell you, it works, and it's going to get better, and it's going to happen fast. It's not hard at all for an AI to read text on the screen and click it. What's amazing is the social impact this has - often people don't believe it's real. It feels like when I had to explain to my parents that in my online multiplayer game, that t…

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Re: I recorded a screen capture of a task. Gemini generated code to replicate it

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Post by skydhash »

saurik wrote: post #35
eden_hazard wrote: post #3

I feel like most engineers on hackernews/reddit have been underestimating AI tech. People always say it sucks and it gets starts hallucinating nonexistent libraries and what not but we are still in the early phase of this technology. And that how it could never replace them as AI will make current engineers more efficient. I've been scared of AI since seeing chatgbt a couple of years ago. I feel like it's only a matt…

If you can automate my job--and I maintain we not only aren't there yet even but still won't be even if you make it so I never have to write another line of "syntax" ever again (as that isn't now and never was the job of a programmer)--you clearly can automate the jobs of most of the value chain above me, all the way up to the limited partners at the VC firms being paid management fees to pick portfolio companies...…

People keep forgetting that the value is not in the code itself, but in the solution that it realizes. Right now, you need developers to design and implement the code, and because they're humans, you need, people to manage them, people to manage everyone, people to manage salaries and expenses,... If you automate the job that is closest to the product, you remove the whole stack up to the founder. And history has proven that a founder is not really essential when the business is already running.
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