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Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by DiabloD3 »

pedalpete wrote: post #16

Apparently this isn't new knowledge, a study from 2003. The study not only states that body temperature is higher, but also the mechanism by which this occurs which is related to 5-HTTLPR deletion. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12759553/

I was going to say, I thought we've known this for at least two decades.

Depression is considered an inflammation-associated disorder, and improper/constant activation of cross-reactive inflammation pathways eats into mitochondrial energy production (The Powerhouse Of the Cell(tm)), which means energy that would go keeping you warm isn't.

The body, for some adaptive reason (and presumably a good one), doesn't turn up energy production to compensate.

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by agos »

deminature wrote: post #25
7thaccount wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometime early during the pandemic I believe I got Covid as my breathing got really messed up in a way my medications couldn't help and I never have asthma issues during that time of the year (no typical symptoms though). I noticed not long after that occurrence that any caffeine consumption would give me massive anxiety attacks and a heart beat out of rhythm. I've never had issues with either before. Heart stress te…

I've had the same thing with caffeine causing significant anxiety that didn't occur beforehand. One of my medications also stopped working for a month afterwards. I'm surprised there's not more concern in broader society about the multi-systemic health issues this infection can cause before barreling into shoving people into crowded public spaces again, where they can catch it repeatedly.

it appears that other infections can cause similar if not identical problem, it's just that with COVID a tenth of the planet or so caught it in the span of a few months and it's (slightly) clearer what the effects are.

I feel we are shoving people into crowded public spaces because we currently have no practical alternative

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by HumanOstrich »

aszantu wrote: post #86
wiredfool wrote: post #77

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My wife has gone through perimenopause for a while now (ages really, probably O(15 years)), and the number of potential symptoms connected to it are immense, while the awareness from medical providers is pretty minimal. Mental issues, Food/blood sugar stuff, the well known hot flashes, cold flashes, the works. What's worked for her is HRT, and more recently, intermittent fasting. (food between noon and 8pm only, but…

do you, by any chance, know about how to get the needed hormones from food? Two weeks ago I found offal in a japanese store. Wondering if it would do something, to eat pork uterus or so... I know it's not everyone's choice, but I can't stop thinking about it

No, go to a doctor.

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by aszantu »

HumanOstrich wrote: post #103
aszantu wrote: post #86

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do you, by any chance, know about how to get the needed hormones from food? Two weeks ago I found offal in a japanese store. Wondering if it would do something, to eat pork uterus or so... I know it's not everyone's choice, but I can't stop thinking about it

No, go to a doctor.

if they'd be of any help... last gynecologist said, that hormones aren't a problem as long as I have my period. That's it, am I supposed to stop searching?

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by hdanirwin »

My wife's therapist recently instructed her to start plunging her face in ice when she gets overwhelmed with anxiety (mostly because she was refusing to consider meds)

The ice plunge is generally understood to help by stimulating the vagus nerve and parasympathetic nervous system. But I wonder if it is related to this too.

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by monknomo »

aszantu wrote: post #83
cperciva wrote: post #75

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40 year old female with depression and hypothermia screams Hashimoto's disease to me. Have you had your TSH checked?

it's within the ranges, nothing wrong with tyroid - even took a little iodine on the side to test if it does something - there is this test where you put iodine on your skin, and if it gets absorbed within 10 minutes, you're low on iodine - I'm not, all the bloodwork looks normal except for cholesterol (cuz high fat low carb) - see cholesterol code for that

Thyroids can intermittently fail, or have one of the glands fail and the other make up for it (for a while). TSH isn't quite sufficient to catch everything, and one test alone won't necessarily catch everything.

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by themaninthedark »

iisan7 wrote: post #43
throwawaaarrgh wrote: post #18

I don't know if this is a wide phenomenon, but when I get angry or frustrated, my body temp skyrockets. I have to take off clothes I get hot so fast. Happens mostly when I'm working from home and getting pissed off at the computer.

well, if some of the reasoning in this thread is correct, maybe you need to take off your clothes to prevent yourself getting angry!

Then I should be great since I like to take off my clothes all the time!

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by wiredfool »

aszantu wrote: post #104
HumanOstrich wrote: post #103

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No, go to a doctor.

if they'd be of any help... last gynecologist said, that hormones aren't a problem as long as I have my period. That's it, am I supposed to stop searching?

You may need to find a menopause specialist, as many medical practitioners don't really pay attention to it, even if it is within or adjacent to their speciality.

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Post by devilbunny »

lazyasciiart wrote: post #90
svrtknst wrote: post #68

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Not sure about "fix" but cooling the body via hot showers is a fairly common recommendation for anxiety relief, especially prior to sleep. Supposedly, if you cool the body down externally (cold shower, cold environment) it will try to increase body temp, but if you take a hot shower or sauna, the body will instead try to lower its temperature.

Drinking hot tea will also help you stay cool externally, as people in some areas seem to have known for a long time https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/a-hot-drink-on...

Note: applies in hot, dry climates where you’re wearing light clothing that lets the sweat evaporate. Don’t try it in New Orleans or Singapore.
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