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Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Dry or humid heat?

If he's complaining about 28 C it's a humid heat. 28 C dry needs covers

Maybe I just have bad heat tolerance, but complaining that 28C indoors is hot seems normal to me?

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I feel like at some point we're gonna discover depression is basically some kind of inflammatory disease

Depressive disorders are understood to involve alterations in inflammation pathways. SSRIs and SNRIs have been documented to induce alterations in multiple inflammatory pathways, coinciding with improvement of depression symptoms.

That doesn’t imply that depression is a simple result of inflammatory processes, it just shows that depression is a cross-cutting alteration to the body’s function on many levels.

In some cases, depression does result from physical processes in the body going wrong. However, I think too many people try to pin mental health conditions on underlying physical problems that don’t exist. It’s very common for people to want to explain away their depression rather than accept that mental health treatment is the way forward.

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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I don't know if this is a wide phenomenon, but when I get angry or frustrated, my body temp skyrockets. I have to take off clothes I get hot so fast. Happens mostly when I'm working from home and getting pissed off at the computer.

well, if some of the reasoning in this thread is correct, maybe you need to take off your clothes to prevent yourself getting angry!

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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I feel like at some point we're gonna discover depression is basically some kind of inflammatory disease

I could see this being true when depression arises spontaneously. Do you think this could be the case as well for depression that's triggered by life events?

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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Interesting, considering the following.

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/01/human-body-te...

> The researchers determined that the body temperature of men born in the early to mid-1990s is on average 1.06 F lower than that of men born in the early 1800s. Similarly, they determined that the body temperature of women born in the early to mid-1990s is on average 0.58 F lower than that of women born in the 1890s. These calculations correspond to a decrease in body temperature of 0.05 F every decade.

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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I feel like at some point we're gonna discover depression is basically some kind of inflammatory disease

I could see this being true when depression arises spontaneously. Do you think this could be the case as well for depression that's triggered by life events?

You could probably argue that if you have these issues you may still be coping ok, but when life events hit on top they bring it to a point where it crosses into debilitating.

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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About one in five adults wore a fitness tracker, either as a band or smartwatch, in 2020, according to the Pew Research Center. I'm sure it's higher now and yet obesity rates keep going up. Shows how ineffective these solutions are. People are more active and tracking their calories yet weight gain is unstoppable.

I had a gf that joined a female dance/pilates type gym and went religiously, yet actually gained weight over the year. When I told her that the two scoops of protein powder she was taking at lunch were probably causing weight gain because no girl needs an additional 60 grams of protein on top of a well balanced diet we already had, she got mad. Eventually we broke up because I can't deal with someone that can't have a logical discussion. She's now even heavier, yet still going to that gym years later.

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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About one in five adults wore a fitness tracker, either as a band or smartwatch, in 2020, according to the Pew Research Center. I'm sure it's higher now and yet obesity rates keep going up. Shows how ineffective these solutions are. People are more active and tracking their calories yet weight gain is unstoppable.

Wearing a fitness tracking device gives you this illusion of working on your health and fitness without actually doing so.

I know many people who wear Whoop bands and swear by it but month after month their clothing gets just a little tighter and their double chins just a little bigger.

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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I feel like at some point we're gonna discover depression is basically some kind of inflammatory disease

I could see this being true when depression arises spontaneously. Do you think this could be the case as well for depression that's triggered by life events?

There is a bidirectional relationship.

Re: Fitness trackers find new symptom of depression: body temperature

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I feel like at some point we're gonna discover depression is basically some kind of inflammatory disease

You know there's so much talk on many physical symptoms being "psychogenic" or whatever. Even psychologists or general medical professionals will claim that whatever symptoms you are feeling are probably psychogenic. It makes me wonder if many things might be the other way around. That there's clear physical reasons for many mental or psychological problems. It's just always easier to claim something is psychogenic w…

That it's psychogenic doesn't mean they're imagining it, or even that it's not physical. The brain is a physical organ that is responsible for regulating bodily processes after all. Mental processes have direct and obvious physical effects on other organs, so of course they can also have subtler dysregulatory effects as well.

Sometimes the cause or treatment might be physical, sometimes it might be mental, because the mental intervention might be just as effective, even with our current poor understanding of the brain.

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