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Alexei Navalny has died

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by hiddencost »

cglace wrote: post #144
KingOfCoders wrote: post #93

The (small) upside of all this missery, death and pain is Europe will lose some territory but gain it's own military security after decades of living from the US strategy alignment. Countries like Poland will no longer buy US weapons but increase European defense spending - they fear just like Ukraine that US congress just turns around and will stop delivering parts for F-35s in a conflict [0]. The US lost all it's t…

The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin, and the lesson you take away is that the US is somehow at fault. The one bill that was blocked by Congress would be more support than Europe as a whole has provided to Ukraine to date. While I agree that European countries should start to take their defense seriously I don't see how you fault US support of Ukraine.

The delay in US aid is going to lose this war. It's unconscionable.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by ModernMech »

squarefoot wrote: post #270
ModernMech wrote: post #157

Amazing this happens just as a concerted pro Russia media campaign is being run by the American political right. It will be interesting to see what they do now. This is definitely a loyalty test for them. Those who speak out against Putin at this point will be excised from the party.

I wonder how the pro-Putin crowd will react to this: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68309496 and this: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68266447 My country is spending around 1.4% of GDP for defense, therefore it made into the list of countries he would encourage Putin to invade. The guy apparently doesn't know about the over 100 (publicly known) USA military bases and the American people working th…

Yeah the last few weeks or so have been interesting.

A raft of politicians block Ukraine aid.

Then they go on the air to say how strong Putin is, and how his victory is inevitable.

Then Tucker Carlson airs footage of himself in Moscow saying what he sees there will “radicalize you against your government, seeing how much better Russians have it, I know radicalized me at least”

Trump argues in court that presidents have the right to assassinate political rivals.

Trump says on national TV multiple times that he would encourage Putin to invade NATO countries.

Now Putin assassinates his already imprisoned political rival.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by BurningFrog »

cglace wrote: post #144
KingOfCoders wrote: post #93

The (small) upside of all this missery, death and pain is Europe will lose some territory but gain it's own military security after decades of living from the US strategy alignment. Countries like Poland will no longer buy US weapons but increase European defense spending - they fear just like Ukraine that US congress just turns around and will stop delivering parts for F-35s in a conflict [0]. The US lost all it's t…

The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin, and the lesson you take away is that the US is somehow at fault. The one bill that was blocked by Congress would be more support than Europe as a whole has provided to Ukraine to date. While I agree that European countries should start to take their defense seriously I don't see how you fault US support of Ukraine.

> The US has provided...

You write in the past tense, and in that sense you're right.

But the US is no longer providing that help.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by Mistletoe »

gorbachev wrote: post #260
Mistletoe wrote: post #233

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Putin has cancer and Father Time is undefeated. There’s reason for much optimism in the world.

He has Princes waiting in his wings that will continue the same kleptocratic dictatorship in that country for decades to come. Nothing will change when he, hopefully soon, dies.

I know it is enough to fill several books but I don’t see how we went from Gorbachev to this.

I’ll hold hope that the Princes will be less homicidal maniacs. I think there is something extra psychotic about Putin that you don’t find in normal people.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by miroljub »

Vt71fcAqt7 wrote: post #298
miroljub wrote: post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yes, close those US bases, such a smart strategic move Finally something that Europeans and Americans can agree about. Just GTFO from Europe and never ever come back. We don't need you, you don't need us. The world will be a better place when Native Americans regain their land and get rid of the dominance of the descendants of the European colonists.

>The world will be a better place when Native Americans regain their land Do you hold similar opinions for other continents?

Yes.

The difference is that natives regained the majority of their land in other continents. North America and Australia being the worst offenders with their unlawful apartheid regimes.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by amai »

A 47 year old man killed by the 72 year old president. Nothing shows the conflict of generations in Russia better than this. The old farts of Russia/Soviet Union are killing the younger generation and by that are killing Russias future. For what, grandpa? For what?

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by KingOfCoders »

secondary_op wrote: post #342
KingOfCoders wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As soon as the Ukraine war comes to a standstill, Russia will start riots in the Baltics to create a land connection to Kaliningrad.

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Putin and the Russian political elite have declared several times, in speeches and articles, they want the Russian Tsar Empire back. As early as 1994 it was clear that Putin wants the Baltics back (see Hamburg incident).

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by KingOfCoders »

secondary_op wrote: post #336
KingOfCoders wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Break up and civil war.

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I'd bet on "IQ of chimpanzee".

And my chimpanzee brain says:

Break up of the British empire: Civil war.

Break up of the Soviet empire: Civil war.

Break up of the German empire: Civil war.

Break up of the Russian empire: My chimpanzee brain thinks ...

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by ninjin »

reactordev wrote: post #383
FredPret wrote: post #370

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Europe will now spend more on it’s own defence which is very good for the West and just horrible for Russia. Invading the EU is a different proposition to invading Ukraine. Invading a well-armed Europe is almost impossible.

“Invading a well-armed Europe is almost impossible.” Funny, the world had the same thought in 1936.

Fair point. But if you want to use that analogy, maybe you are also willing to admit that the might of the Wehrmacht accomplished substantially more than getting bogged down about 100km beyond their initial borders two years into the conflict?

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by joenot443 »

api wrote: post #200
merpkz wrote: post #41

So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

You forgot a chunk of the US right actively supporting Russia and praising Putin as savior of the West. They aren’t the majority but are influential. Xi Xinpeng should take a lesson here. Apparently all you have to do is dunk on gay people and pay lip service to right wing culture war stuff and they’ll roll over. You don’t even have to mean it. (Every core statistic the right claims to care about is worse in Russia l…

I hang out with people of a huge range of political views, from classical Marxist-Leninists to earnest tear-it-down anarchists, from neolib Obama stans to full magapedes.

I've yet to meet a single one who "actively supports Russia and praises Putin as savior of the West". Like, literally not one. The only time I've _ever_ heard this viewpoint uttered in North America is when people online are sketching it out online as a bogeyman. Even on the trashier, more marginal sides of Twitter it's still America First - I just don't know who these people are that you and others in this thread are so concerned about.

Have you personally met someone who believes that crap? Who, given the option, would prefer a world of Russian hegemony over American? I think we're getting mad at a population that in North America doesn't really exist in any meaningful way.

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