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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by The_Colonel »

belter wrote: post #97
profunctor wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you want to world to do? Russia is already under increasingly crippling sanctions and many countries are funding + arming its opponent in a war.

> Russia is already under increasingly crippling sanctions You are surely joking... "IMF raises Russia growth outlook as war boosts economy - New 2024 forecast of 2.6% rise doubles previous prediction and prompts questions over sanctions against Moscow" - https://www.ft.com/content/21a5be9c-afaa-495f-b7af-cf9370931...

It's a war economy. Russia builds a lot of tanks, mans a large army, pays a lot to the families of the fallen, it all adds a lot to the GDP.

But those tanks are going to burn, they don't add value to the economy, won't be exchanged for foreign goods. If you dig a hole into the ground, you increase the GDP, war destruction is not much different in its value creation. GDP is not a perfect measure of an economy.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by gorbachev »

wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #106
merpkz wrote: post #41

So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

Russia really is not to be feared. The Ukraine war is a tragedy and I hope it ends soon. But they have no economical & military power to really do any harm the Europe & the US. Putin makes a lot of noise but really can't even win a few km's in Ukraine. But the real threat is further east. China is slowly building it's empire, and it's a scary one. Taking over parts of Africa. Migrating it's people. Integrating it's t…

Ukrainians, Lithunians, Latvians, Estonians, Finns and Polish would disagree with your first sentence.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by joakleaf »

zer00eyz wrote: post #238
joakleaf wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure about the US providing more funding (especially not by a large margin): This chart shows EU outspending the US. https://www.statista.com/chart/28489/ukrainian-military-huma... .

Total aid, yes. Military spending no. In fact this war has highlighted that NO ONE was ready for the fight that came about. Skip the money for a moment. Ukraine right now is marginally fucked for one reason: 155mm artillery shells. There isnt enough global production to have a war. The US is far and away the largest producer. EU can not keep up and did not bring on anywhere near enough capacity to defend itself in a…

Looking at Military aid only [1]:

The US has provided: ~$42.2B

Germany + United Kingdom + Denmark + Norway + Netherlands + Poland + EU inst.: ~$51B

[1] https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-s...

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by ivan_gammel »

zer00eyz wrote: post #238
joakleaf wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure about the US providing more funding (especially not by a large margin): This chart shows EU outspending the US. https://www.statista.com/chart/28489/ukrainian-military-huma... .

Total aid, yes. Military spending no. In fact this war has highlighted that NO ONE was ready for the fight that came about. Skip the money for a moment. Ukraine right now is marginally fucked for one reason: 155mm artillery shells. There isnt enough global production to have a war. The US is far and away the largest producer. EU can not keep up and did not bring on anywhere near enough capacity to defend itself in a…

>Sending money there avoids bringing the problems to Poland and Germany

I‘d argue that refugees, 50% of whom intend to stay, are the reason why EU is the only party to win something from this war. I actively support Ukrainian refugees by giving them some work and talk to people: those who will stay, want to integrate and they offer some relief to the job markets.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by matthewaveryusa »

swarnie wrote: post #170
matthewaveryusa wrote: post #148

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I hate this "Europe" generalisation... Are you talking about the UK, Spain or Romania? Some have met their spending targets, others didn't suck on the Russki gas pipe. If you want to say Germany, just say Germany.

1973 Europe. We all know post 2000 countries were for the economic zone (Poland is an interesting case, but Germany never considered them trusted partners, building their gas pipelines around and not through PL)

So what about Romania? Looking at it from a European security standpoint they only need to be aligned to the mission

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by secondary_op »

timeon wrote: post #241
secondary_op wrote: post #225

Being young Russian citizen with liberal world views I passionatly followed Alexey Navalny and his team work, at the time it was seemingly altruistic, positive, and very entertaining. But now not so young anymore and hopefully smarter, I am looking back and seeing that what it was, was play to hijack power for the sake of it, create instability as means to gain power, and from more recent interview with people worked…

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by eino »

kortilla wrote: post #217
joakleaf wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not sure about the US providing more funding (especially not by a large margin): This chart shows EU outspending the US. https://www.statista.com/chart/28489/ukrainian-military-huma... .

We’re talking about the military portion on that page.

The quote from OP was "The US has provided more funding to Ukraine than the world combined by a large margin". Which is just completely false. Now you're just moving goalposts.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by Clubber »

postingawayonhn wrote: post #228
Clubber wrote: post #38

People calling for the US to do more against Russia, be careful what you wish for. You have no idea how close the US is to a draft. The US has been woefully low at filling military recruiting quotas. Keep in mind both presidents during WWI and WWII campaigned to keep us out of those wars. Any major conflict like that will most certainly require a draft. Better keep your saber rattling to a minimum. Though the percent…

Do you realise how easy it would be for the US to defeat the depleted Russian military? The US Air Force alone could probably do it in a weekend. The war in Ukraine only drags on for so long because of the refusal of the west (partly tachnical issues, partly political hesitation) to equip Ukraine with modern weapons in sufficient quantities.

>the depleted Russian military

They aren't depleted. They've suffered 300K casualties, they have 24,700,000 left of fighting age. Also keep in mind Russia has no qualms about putting women in front line combat roles.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Russo-Ukrain...

Also, Iran seems like they want to get involved. They've been selling Russia arms during the conflict. They have about 17 million people of fighting age.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_global_manpower_fit_fo...

>do it in a weekend

They said that about the US Civil War

https://www.loc.gov/exhibits/civil-war-in-america/april-1861...

And WWI

https://www.theworldwar.org/exhibitions/over-christmas

By WWII, we realized it wouldn't be a short war. We seem to have forgotten. Also Russia has a lot of nukes, you know what MAD stands for right?

Best case we're probably looking at a Phyrric victory.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrrhic_victory

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by squarefoot »

ModernMech wrote: post #157

Amazing this happens just as a concerted pro Russia media campaign is being run by the American political right. It will be interesting to see what they do now. This is definitely a loyalty test for them. Those who speak out against Putin at this point will be excised from the party.

I wonder how the pro-Putin crowd will react to this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68309496

and this:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68266447

My country is spending around 1.4% of GDP for defense, therefore it made into the list of countries he would encourage Putin to invade. The guy apparently doesn't know about the over 100 (publicly known) USA military bases and the American people working there (around 13000).

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