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Alexei Navalny has died

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Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by ethbr1 »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #93

The (small) upside of all this missery, death and pain is Europe will lose some territory but gain it's own military security after decades of living from the US strategy alignment. Countries like Poland will no longer buy US weapons but increase European defense spending - they fear just like Ukraine that US congress just turns around and will stop delivering parts for F-35s in a conflict [0]. The US lost all it's t…

> they fear just like Ukraine that US congress just turns around and will stop delivering parts for F-35s in a conflict.

This is an interesting read on the US sending more than half ($47.38b / $88.94b) [0] of the total worldwide military aid allocated so far to Ukraine.

[0] https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/ukraine-support-tracker...

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by falcor84 »

timeon wrote: post #59
mittermayr wrote: post #48

I often wonder what Russia will be like once Putin is gone. The time he has left can't be very long, so what happens then?

> can't be very long He still has ~20 years.

Yes, I expect he'll be getting every possible half-tested life extension treatment that money can buy.

At this stage, I also wouldn't be that surprised if he amends their constitution to allow his uploaded intelligence to continue in the role after his physical death.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by chinathrow »

wouldbecouldbe wrote: post #106
merpkz wrote: post #41

So in latest news, last opposition figure in Russia dies together with any hope for regime change while Russia's war effort is starting to get some traction with it's overwhelming man power and Ukraine is forced to cede more territory all while west is busy either with it's in-fighting or comparing each others superior GDP and how Russia will crumble just any day now (TM). Man, are we in for a ride next decade in Eur…

Russia really is not to be feared. The Ukraine war is a tragedy and I hope it ends soon. But they have no economical & military power to really do any harm the Europe & the US. Putin makes a lot of noise but really can't even win a few km's in Ukraine. But the real threat is further east. China is slowly building it's empire, and it's a scary one. Taking over parts of Africa. Migrating it's people. Integrating it's t…

You underestimate how Russia is playing the long game while everyone else thinks in election cycles.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by JohnBooty »

falcor84 wrote: post #119
cedws wrote: post #104

Incredibly sad. Navalny had balls of steel to stand up to a murderous dictator like he did. It feels like it was all for nought. Putin kills another opposition figure and nobody bats an eye.

> nobody bats an eye That's not the problem. Here we are all batting our eyes, but that doesn't help. Thousands of Russians went out to the streets to protest the war and got arrested without making a difference. I'm very unclear on what kind of sacrifice would be required at this stage to change the situation in Russia.

It just seems hopeless. An enormous country (with a tremendous cultural history) that has never known a healthy democracy. It's just not in their DNA. I think the US will give up capitalism before Russia adopts anything resembling a healthy democracy. (Not the the US' democracy is in perfect health)

Even if Putin dies, whatever replaces him will certainly be just as bad. There will be a power vacuum, then a power struggle among oligarchs etc, and then the next Putin will emerge.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by globalnode »

Clubber wrote: post #38

People calling for the US to do more against Russia, be careful what you wish for. You have no idea how close the US is to a draft. The US has been woefully low at filling military recruiting quotas. Keep in mind both presidents during WWI and WWII campaigned to keep us out of those wars. Any major conflict like that will most certainly require a draft. Better keep your saber rattling to a minimum. Though the percent…

downvoted by propagandists and bots?

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by dboreham »

ethbr1 wrote: post #151
KingOfCoders wrote: post #93

The (small) upside of all this missery, death and pain is Europe will lose some territory but gain it's own military security after decades of living from the US strategy alignment. Countries like Poland will no longer buy US weapons but increase European defense spending - they fear just like Ukraine that US congress just turns around and will stop delivering parts for F-35s in a conflict [0]. The US lost all it's t…

> they fear just like Ukraine that US congress just turns around and will stop delivering parts for F-35s in a conflict. This is an interesting read on the US sending more than half ($47.38b / $88.94b) [0] of the total worldwide military aid allocated so far to Ukraine. [0] https://www.ifw-kiel.de/publications/ukraine-support-tracker...

Suspect parent is thinking of another perfect call in the future.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by ModernMech »

Amazing this happens just as a concerted pro Russia media campaign is being run by the American political right.

It will be interesting to see what they do now. This is definitely a loyalty test for them. Those who speak out against Putin at this point will be excised from the party.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by neuronic »

lordfrito wrote: post #105

If you believe the western media, the west no longer believes in or upholds its values, and watches while Russia pushes westward while China builds up a military and eyes Taiwan, both more than happy to destabilize the middle east in pursuit of their goals. The west needs to wake up, we're slowly sliding towards a world conflict. This is going to get worse before it gets better. Edit: Russia is pushing westward not e…

Listen to internal speeches by Putin or Xi, they are often available on YouTube. We are not slowly sliding towards a world conflict, it has already begun and we are hopeless to stop it. It is arrogant to ignore or dismiss the happenings.

Things were set in motion years ago and they are slowly unraveling. When the West rejected Russia's deeper integration into its structures after the Cold War ended and expanded NATO towards the East this path was set in stone. The late 2000s were the absolute breaking point.

Major Eastern players are asymmetrically breaking US hegemony through proxies and internal conflict. They cannot face the US conventionally but it doesn't mean they cannot face the US. They can, they do and they will continue to do so.

Brexit, MAGA, Mideast conflicts, Ukraine, EU refugee crisis, inflation, energy crisis, recent development in North Korea, social media disinformation etc. etc. etc.

The BRICS countries (and others) are pursuing a multipolar, non-democratic world with heavily reduced US influence over Asia and Europe, who are now discussing defense independence and their own nuclear umbrella after Trump strategically placed some Russian talking points (again).

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by andy_ppp »

I couldn’t believe how brave he was going back to Russia after being poisoned the first time, I didn’t understand it and assumed this would happen at some point. I don’t understand how Putin thinks this can be good for him to do this now but it certainly will make anyone running against him aware it’s a very bad idea. It reminds me starkly that Europe is going to be dealing with the Russian problem for a long time after Ukraine is settled one way or another.

Re: Alexei Navalny has died

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Post by odiroot »

KingOfCoders wrote: post #93

The (small) upside of all this missery, death and pain is Europe will lose some territory but gain it's own military security after decades of living from the US strategy alignment. Countries like Poland will no longer buy US weapons but increase European defense spending - they fear just like Ukraine that US congress just turns around and will stop delivering parts for F-35s in a conflict [0]. The US lost all it's t…

> Countries like Poland will no longer buy US weapons but increase European defense spending - they fear just like Ukraine that US congress just turns around and will stop delivering parts for F-35s in a conflict

That's absolutely not the sentiments among Poles. If anything, there's a belief we can only rely on US when poo hits the fan.

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