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Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by jsjohnst »

DJHenk wrote: post #247
bamboozled wrote: post #225

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I'm almost certain this is because you're getting use to chat bots. How would they honestly be getting worse? Initially it felt like the singularity was at hand. You've played with it, got to know it, the computer was taking to you, it was your friend, it was exciting then you got bored with your new friend and it wasn't as great as you remember it. Dating is often like this. You meet someone, have some amazing intim…

> I'm almost certain this is because you're getting use to chat bots. How would they honestly be getting worse? People say that, but I don't get this line of reasoning. There was something new, I learned to work with it. At one point I knew what question to ask to get the answer I want and have been using that form ever since. Nowadays I don't get the answer I want for the same input. How is that not a result of decl…

For the record, I agree with you about declining quality of answers, but…

> Nowadays I don't get the answer I want for the same input. How is that not a result of declining quality?

Is it really the same input? An argument could easily be made that as you’ve gotten accustomed to ChatGPT, you ask harder questions, use less descriptive of language, etc.

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Post by mlrtime »

WhrRTheBaboons wrote: post #255
passion__desire wrote: post #163

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Become the next 3blue1brown. He has inspired many. Here's a gem of educator. Check out his other videos. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhYqflvJMXc

easier said than done 3b1b's main selling point is the extreme level of polish on his visualizations - something that takes a lot of time (money) to develop the sad part is that it takes extreme luck to make it on yt. i wish educating skills counted for more but unfortunately they don't, really.

So then isn't there a market for millions of people who [may] have something worth teaching but lack the marketing/polish?

Perhaps some automation/ai combination where you feed it learning videos and it helps create the "other" content.

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Post by dathinab »

spaceman_2020 wrote: post #146
sjwhevvvvvsj wrote: post #137

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What Mistral has though is speed, and with speed comes scale.

Who cares about speed if you’re wrong? This isn’t a race to write the most lines of code or the most lines of text. It’s a race to write the most correct lines of code. I’ll wait half an hour for a response if I know I’m getting at least staff engineer level tier of code for every question

Who care about getting better answers if you can't afford it, can't use it for legal reason or conclude that the risk associated with OpenAI now being a fully proprietary US based service only company is to high given all circumstances. (Depending on how various things develop things like US export restricting OpenAI, even GPT-4, is a very real possibility companies can't ignore when doing long term product decisions.)

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Post by Keyframe »

sho wrote: post #120
skepticATX wrote: post #18

Frankly, OpenAI seems to be losing its luster, and fast. Plugins were a failure. GPTs are a little better, but I still don't see the product market fit. GPT-4 is still king, but not by that much any more. It's not even clear that they're doing great research, because they don't publish. GPT-5 has to be incredibly good at this point, and I'm not sure that it will be.

> GPT-4 is still king, but not by that much any more Idk, I just tried Gemini Ultra and it's so much worse than GPT4 that I am actually quite shocked. Trying to ask it any kind of coding question ends up being this frustrating and honestly bizarre waste of time as it hallucinates a whole new language syntax every time and then asks if you want to continue with non-working, in fact non-existing, option A or the equall…

I kind of gave up completely on coding questions. Whether it's GPT4, Anthropic, or Gemini - there's always this big issue of laziness I'm facing. Never do I get a full code, there are always stubs or TODOs (on important stuff) and when asked to correct for that.. I just get more of it (laziness). Has anyone else faced this and is there a solution? It's almost as annoying, if not more, as was incomplete output in the early days.

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Post by hef19898 »

nateberkopec wrote: post #230
skepticATX wrote: post #18

Frankly, OpenAI seems to be losing its luster, and fast. Plugins were a failure. GPTs are a little better, but I still don't see the product market fit. GPT-4 is still king, but not by that much any more. It's not even clear that they're doing great research, because they don't publish. GPT-5 has to be incredibly good at this point, and I'm not sure that it will be.

Sam publicly asking for a 10x bigger power grid and 7 trillion dollars is a pretty clear sign that they're out of short to medium-term ideas other than "MOAR PARAMETERS".

Well, he also wanted a shit ton of money so that OpenAI coupd build its own silicon, after most of the real world money generated by the AI hype went to nVidia.

Just imagine what valuation OpenAI would have as a grid monopolist combined with nVidia, ARM, Intel and AMD! Hundreds of trillions of dollars!

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Post by onlyrealcuzzo »

al_borland wrote: post #156
skepticATX wrote: post #18

Frankly, OpenAI seems to be losing its luster, and fast. Plugins were a failure. GPTs are a little better, but I still don't see the product market fit. GPT-4 is still king, but not by that much any more. It's not even clear that they're doing great research, because they don't publish. GPT-5 has to be incredibly good at this point, and I'm not sure that it will be.

I know things keep moving faster and faster, especially in this space, but GPT-4 is less than a year old. Claiming they are losing their luster, because they aren’t shaking the earth with new models every quarter, seems a little ridiculous. As the popularity has exploded, and ethical questions have become increasingly relevant, it is probably worth taking some time to nail certain aspects down before releasing everyt…

> Claiming they are losing their luster, because they aren’t shaking the earth with new models every quarter, seems a little ridiculous.

If that's the foundation your luster is built on - then it's not really ridiculous.

GPT popularized LLMs to the world with GPT-3, not too long before GPT-4 came out. They made a lot of big, cool changes shortly after GPT-4 - and everyone in their mother announced LLM projects and integrations in that time.

It's been about 9 months now, and not a whole lot has happened in the space.

It's almost as if the law of diminishing returns has kicked in.

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Post by sesm »

skepticATX wrote: post #18

Frankly, OpenAI seems to be losing its luster, and fast. Plugins were a failure. GPTs are a little better, but I still don't see the product market fit. GPT-4 is still king, but not by that much any more. It's not even clear that they're doing great research, because they don't publish. GPT-5 has to be incredibly good at this point, and I'm not sure that it will be.

To me plugins were an improvement, I often use ‘AI diagrams’ plugin and ask it to draw sequence diagrams.

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Post by georgespencer »

nateberkopec wrote: post #230
skepticATX wrote: post #18

Frankly, OpenAI seems to be losing its luster, and fast. Plugins were a failure. GPTs are a little better, but I still don't see the product market fit. GPT-4 is still king, but not by that much any more. It's not even clear that they're doing great research, because they don't publish. GPT-5 has to be incredibly good at this point, and I'm not sure that it will be.

Sam publicly asking for a 10x bigger power grid and 7 trillion dollars is a pretty clear sign that they're out of short to medium-term ideas other than "MOAR PARAMETERS".

You think his short to medium term plan is to raise $7tn to build dozens of fabs?

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Post by dathinab »

Jensson wrote: post #203
p1esk wrote: post #93

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He is one of OpenAI founders. I don’t think he needs to vest anything.

He founded the non profit, not the part that earns money. Non profit founders doesn't have shares.

yeah, he is basically on of the people who got screwed over, but given that he did work for OpenAI he might not thinking about it that way

Re: Hi everyone yes, I left OpenAI yesterday

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Post by joenot443 »

Copenjin wrote: post #270
weinzierl wrote: post #79

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Andrej Karpathy is badmephisto, a name you might have heard of if you're into cubing. http://badmephisto.com/

10 years ago: https://youtu.be/WhPjlnWbtS8?feature=shared&t=359

Wow - that earnestly gave me goosebumps. I'm a Googler myself and it's humbling seeing him casually describe, 10 years ago, a technology the industry was still in the early stages of developing, which has since taken the world by storm. What a rockstar.
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