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Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Post by imutemyteam92 »

changoplatanero wrote: post #9

There is a worry expressed in the article about inequality arising from some students having paid access to gpt4 whereas the bulk of the students only get access to gpt3.5. I'm hoping to see openai release an update to the 3.5 model that makes this gap in performance be less relevant.

Tbf its really not that big of a deal.

First people have to be taught to use it, for that 3.5 is decent.

I guess its like your grandma using Google, vs as a working professional using Google.

Your grandma using google is still a plus.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Post by a321neo »

behnamoh wrote: post #26

Why not use a combination of open source and OpenAI models? GPT-3.5 is already beaten by Mixtral and Mistral-Medium. The first one you can host for free and the second has a darn cheap API while getting really close to GPT-4 performance.

Even the free GPT-3.5 is better at smaller European languages than Mixtral/Mistral-Medium.

However I think it's a typo when the article says GPT-3.5. It doesn't make sense to "buy" GPT-3.5. They probably meant ChatGPT Plus which includes GPT-4 access (50 messages in a rolling 3 hour window).

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Post by imutemyteam92 »

gbil wrote: post #25
ta988 wrote: post #2

While high schools across the US are banning it...

Many universities in Greece currently are closed due to student demonstrations and in many of those the teachers denied holding virtual exams due to lack of standardized exam software and ChatGPT. One could argue that instead of generic questions they could run the exams on questions/topics only taught in class which would be “a bit” difficult for ChatGPT to answer but I guess their excuses have less to do with ChatG…

Personally feel teachers will be the first to lose their jobs. 100%

You just need one teacher who acts as a supervisor. And another group that sets the curriculum. No need to actually teach for the most part.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Post by hiAndrewQuinn »

philip1209 wrote: post #6

This seems to align with the mindset of pragmatism in the Nordics. I can imagine somebody there saying "This is now a standard business technology. So, we will teach it to our students to prepare them."

Correct. We don't have a lot of people up here, so any individual person who gets hired to a job has to be ready to wear many hats. To my understanding this is even more true in Norway than in my adoptive home of Finland (sounds exciting, my wife and I are strongly considering moving).

Technologies like GPT-4, much like Google search before it, vastly increase the number of things we can do acceptably well without needing to study it in depth beforehand - letting us save those extra brain cells for where they really count.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Post by behnamoh »

weird-eye-issue wrote: post #30
behnamoh wrote: post #26

Why not use a combination of open source and OpenAI models? GPT-3.5 is already beaten by Mixtral and Mistral-Medium. The first one you can host for free and the second has a darn cheap API while getting really close to GPT-4 performance.

"GPT-3.5 is already beaten by Mixtral and Mistral-Medium" Not really relevant when they will be using GPT-4, is it? Plus the powerful features from code interpreter is a night and day difference Not everything is worth saving a bit of money to get worse performance from something that has a worse network effect

You can build a code interpreter pretty quickly. In fact I made one that would debug itself back then using gpt-3.

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Post by vitorgrs »

behnamoh wrote: post #26

Why not use a combination of open source and OpenAI models? GPT-3.5 is already beaten by Mixtral and Mistral-Medium. The first one you can host for free and the second has a darn cheap API while getting really close to GPT-4 performance.

Did you tried to use open source models on languages that is not English? Tried asking about things that is not U.S, etc?

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Post by behnamoh »

SkyPuncher wrote: post #41
behnamoh wrote: post #26

Why not use a combination of open source and OpenAI models? GPT-3.5 is already beaten by Mixtral and Mistral-Medium. The first one you can host for free and the second has a darn cheap API while getting really close to GPT-4 performance.

How do you do that for 110k kids? Who builds the UI? Who manages accounts?

Tons of UI clones out there. And it shouldn't be difficult for a government to hire a web dev team to mange accounts.
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