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Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Wow, maybe this is how we'll overtake the nordic countries in test scores?

True. Like how mathematics declined once the calculator was introduced. Those abacus civilisations are still laughing at our stupidity.

The Greeks feared the invention of writing would make memory less important.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

True. Like how mathematics declined once the calculator was introduced. Those abacus civilisations are still laughing at our stupidity.

If chatgpt was a more sophisticated tool for engaging with the same concepts that would be similar, but its not. Chatgpt isnt a pencil vs a typewriter, its a stochastic parrot, one of the worst applications i could imagine it being used for is helping develop young peoples' world views.

> one of the worst applications i could imagine it being used for is helping develop young peoples' world views

As opposed to straight up government propaganda in textbooks? At least chatgpt averages out everyone’s propaganda.

edit for clarity: this comment applies to history books, literature, stuff like that. If you look carefully you’ll notice they’re full of stuff designed to instill a sense of national identity and patriotism. Especially obvious when you look at different nation’s textbooks about the same historical events described from opposing sides.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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funny how google translate reads it as "the Swedish Education Agency" despite it being norweigan. deepl gets it right anyone with more knowledge of scandi languages able to understand why? is the "swedish" (or "norweigan") part implied?

Seems like a "bug" of some sort in google translate. If you remove some context it works.

"Utdanningsetaten" translates to "Education Agency". But I guess instead of "The Education Agency" it tries to translate it into context, which should be "The Norwegian Education Agency".

However it seems confused about which country is being talked about so it just think it's Sweden maybe.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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While high schools across the US are banning it...

Many universities in Greece currently are closed due to student demonstrations and in many of those the teachers denied holding virtual exams due to lack of standardized exam software and ChatGPT. One could argue that instead of generic questions they could run the exams on questions/topics only taught in class which would be “a bit” difficult for ChatGPT to answer but I guess their excuses have less to do with ChatGPT itself and more with other topics…

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True. Like how mathematics declined once the calculator was introduced. Those abacus civilisations are still laughing at our stupidity.

The Greeks feared the invention of writing would make memory less important.

They weren't wrong, but that's okay, there's too much information for anyone to memorize.

Re: Oslo acquires ChatGPT for 110k students and teachers

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Why not use a combination of open source and OpenAI models? GPT-3.5 is already beaten by Mixtral and Mistral-Medium. The first one you can host for free and the second has a darn cheap API while getting really close to GPT-4 performance.

"GPT-3.5 is already beaten by Mixtral and Mistral-Medium"

Not really relevant when they will be using GPT-4, is it?

Plus the powerful features from code interpreter is a night and day difference

Not everything is worth saving a bit of money to get worse performance from something that has a worse network effect

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