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High coffee consumption, brain volume and risk of dementia and stroke

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Re: High coffee consumption, brain volume and risk of dementia and stroke

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I'm wagering that these people are just chronically under-slept, using higher amounts of coffee to compensate. The link between chronic poor sleep and dementia is well established.

Doesn't coffee impact sleep quality as well? At 6 cups a day, I'd expect some caffeine left in the body when sleeping.

Twelve hours to metabolize. The six cup people are totally jacked.

Re: High coffee consumption, brain volume and risk of dementia and stroke

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Venti is the Starbucks name for their largest size cup, which holds 20 ounces. Most people don't really care about the exact, specific volume of fluid, they just go by whatever the cup size happens to be called. At least it is more descriptive than the grande or short cups, or the small / medium / large at other places (even if you have to know that venti is 20 in Italian to make the connection).

I doubt I'm the only obnoxious country dude who rolls into Starbucks and orders a "large". You can ignore their pretentious names, they're very accommodating.

Too insecure to use the size names. That's how it plays...fyi

Re: High coffee consumption, brain volume and risk of dementia and stroke

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> consumption of >6 cups/day was associated with 53% higher odds of dementia compared to consumption of 1–2 cups/day (fully adjusted OR 1.53, 95% CI 1.28, 1.83) 6+ cups! That’s a cranial marinade.

I used to drink along the lines of this much coffee or more. I was travelling very often and often working 12+ hour days for weeks on end. I look back on those days and just thinking about it reminds me of my constantly tweaking eyes, lack of sleep, constant hyperactivity, anxiousness, stress etc. I stopped cold turkey for a while but nowadays have settled on more like 1-2 a day and never after a specific time of day…

Decaf is something I’ve really started to enjoy over the last couple of years. I’ll have one mug of actual coffee in the morning to start my day and then anywhere from 1-3 mugs of decaf. Back in the day it was not an equivalent option due to the chemical extraction process making it taste inferior. Now with water processed beans being offered with my local roaster it’s just about the same level of taste

Re: High coffee consumption, brain volume and risk of dementia and stroke

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Caffeine consumption does lead to poor sleep. Makes sense then that lots of coffee would lead to many nights of low quality sleep thereby increasing the risk of all sorts of bad health outcomes

I suspect it's the other way around, or a cyclical effect. Plenty of people simply do not allow themselves a full night of sleep, or feel that they cannot afford a full night of sleep (e.g. working 2 jobs & raising kids), leading to dependence on caffeine for functioning.

The problem with caffeine is not only the length of sleep but also that it negatively effects the quality of sleep.

So you not only sleep less hours but those hours won’t be as effective for the body and brain.

Re: High coffee consumption, brain volume and risk of dementia and stroke

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I drink about 8-10 cups of black coffee a day, which is what my brewer makes.

I don’t have any issues with sleep but I don’t feel any sort of boost from it, I just enjoy the way it tastes.

I’m curious how consistent this can be seeing as coffee can be made so differently. I know the coffee I make at home is incredibly weak compared to what you’d get at a cafe. I use about 2-3 tablespoons of freshly ground beans for those 10 cups. Starbucks tastes like they use double that for a cup.

I can’t imagine I consumed that much coffee despite the large number of “cups”.

Re: High coffee consumption, brain volume and risk of dementia and stroke

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I drink about 8-10 cups of black coffee a day, which is what my brewer makes. I don’t have any issues with sleep but I don’t feel any sort of boost from it, I just enjoy the way it tastes. I’m curious how consistent this can be seeing as coffee can be made so differently. I know the coffee I make at home is incredibly weak compared to what you’d get at a cafe. I use about 2-3 tablespoons of freshly ground beans for t…

Sorry, I have to get clarification - do you use 2-3 tbsp per cup, as in 20-30 tbsp for the pot, or 2-3 tbsp for the whole pot? The one sounds like normal coffee, while the other would almost be water in my books.

Re: High coffee consumption, brain volume and risk of dementia and stroke

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> consumption of >6 cups/day was associated with 53% higher odds of dementia compared to consumption of 1–2 cups/day (fully adjusted OR 1.53, 95% CI 1.28, 1.83) 6+ cups! That’s a cranial marinade.

Great album title, Cranial Marinade.

Re: High coffee consumption, brain volume and risk of dementia and stroke

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The article is not claiming causal link, but this is still interesting. >After full covariate adjustment, consumption of >6 cups/day was associated with 53% higher odds of dementia compared to consumption of 1–2 cups/day Coffee is stimulant just like some Alzheimer medications used to treat symptoms. It would be interesting to see if people increase coffee consumption with cognitive decline.

Considering the very early effects of dementia start to impact people sometimes decades before it becomes bad enough that they are diagnosed, it's certainly possible that extreme coffee consumption is some kind of self-medication mechanism. Anecdotally, I've seen this a lot with adults with undiagnosed ADHD (including myself until 26). Caffeine can be a (very shitty) alternative to proper stimulant medication that pe…

extreme coffee consumption is used to self-medicate ADHD symptoms as well.
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