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Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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User experience is inversely proportional to piracy.

Every time I have to login using a code, not only am I annoyed that I once again after to re-enter my uid/pwd despite being a paying customer, I'm also reminded I'm paying yet another monthly fee for a service.

Streaming companies: you're asking for it. Begging for it.

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Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

Yeah, also pirated content has: - 4K HDR video, not whatever the heck the buggy client delivers. - Atmos/TrueHD audio track that actually works, not whatever the broken app delivers (I'm looking at you Sky and rest of the ilk that still deliver HBO content with stereo). - Subtitles for ALL the languages, not just one or two. And those languages don't disappear when I go on a vacation, leaving me stuck with german aud…

I've ended up pirating a lot more stuff recently because a lot of services won't set the aspect ratio on the stream properly, so on an ultrawide monitor it displays in 16:9 the size of a postage stamp with both pillarboxing and letterboxing.

Channel 4 (in the UK) is probably the worst offender, as they preserve the aspect ratio, but have it fill the full width of the screen. This results in the top and bottom of the video being cutting off for most TV shows, including the subtitles. They've gone to some effort to make their player run on different aspect ratios, but somehow implemented it entirely the wrong way.

Webrips do suffer from this same issue, but with either FFMpeg or VLC, it can be cropped to the correct ratio without reencoding.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

I read this same thing a lot on Reddit and HN. It surprising to me on HN because I would assume most people on here are making good money. For my family here is the monthly spend with taxes for my area included: HBO Max $ 13.53 Hulu $ 7.21 Disney+ $ 0.18 (w/ Hulu) Paramount+ w/ Showtime $ 10.82 Apple TV+ $ 10.81 AMC+ $ 7.56 Amazon Prime $12.53 $62.64/month. Now, about 20 years ago in 2004 my parents had basic cable a…

Your infrastructure costs for pirating content are comical. Try to think of how to pirate the cheapest way possible, instead of the most expensive way to prove your point.

Probably need a 100 TB SSD to pirate a single movie. And definitely gigabit. 16 GB VRAM should do it.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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> Being honest as long as something like this is available I don't really see what a site like netflix could offer that would convince me to pay Most people are honest, and will do the the legal thing when faced with two equal options. If the choice is between that UI but it's illegal, and a reskin of that UI but it's £30/mo, I'd pay. But it's not, as the other comments here said. It's a choice between that for free…

You wanting everything for £30 is just not a sustainable cost though. They would lose money like that.

That’s their problem though :) bet they lose more money from the $0 they get from pirates - or so they whine.

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Yeah I know discs still exist for now, I'm talking about when they suddenly don't anymore. Hopefully that's far far into the future. And as for Spotify exploiting artists, I don't know how accurate this[1] is, but if it is then it seems pretty fair to me? Maybe slightly on the lower end of what I had expected, but not that far off. If you have a million monthly listeners (and today you have access to over 574M monthl…

I don't think you have any idea how much work, luck, work, talent and work it takes to get to a million monthly listens. "Zero hours of work" - I know artists get underestimated, but this is next level. Btw, taking the very top .1% of earners in a field, like movie or pop stars, and using their returns to imply that musicians and actors are fairly compensated, is a very silly thing to do. Tbh, as someone who knows a…

1) "Exploitation" of artists has happened long before Spotify. Even the popular ones with music deals. So Spotify isn't making this better or worse.

2) Talent and success in music have never been tightly correlated. Marketing is what sells music, not just talent. Marketing requires a lot of money (And payola).

If anything Spotify levels this playing field a bit.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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> no superheroes, no animated stuff, no dei Which one here is not like the other?

What point are you trying to make?

I didn't realize Netflix was making "DEI" films

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Other side of the equation is - Production of Content has become cheap. Distribution has become free with global reach. So we have Infinite amount of content floating about. Not even bringing generative AI into the picture. So infinite growing Supply. Finite demand.

> Other side of the equation is - Production of Content has become cheap I spend a lot of time in both production and post production. The price for good content has certianly decreased but it most certianly hasn't become any definition of cheap. Consumers want very hogh quality content these days and that only comes with experienced staff, you can use cheaper gear. > Distribution has become free with global reach Ev…

> The price for good content has certianly decreased but it most certianly hasn't become any definition of cheap.

Big-budget entertainment certainly remains extremely relevant for things like star wars and marvel movies, I agree. Not to mention sports!

But the rise of Youtube and Twitch and suchlike have shown there is a great appetite for cheaply produced niche content.

Linear TV would never have considered it economical to air 30 minutes of chess coverage every day. But it turns out there's a market for 30+ minutes of chess-themed entertainment per day, paying in the low seven figures annually. And the viewers really don't mind if the mic is in shot or the guy flubs his lines, they'll do the whole thing in one take.

And sure it's not literally one guy, I know that low-seven-figures has to pay for video editing and community chat moderation and enough of a creative team to keep things fresh and so on - but compared to the production standards of linear TV, even way back in the 1990s, this stuff is very cheaply produced.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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With the way streaming services are beginning to mirror the cable TV model, I'm surprised that I've not yet been offered streaming service bundles. Similar to paying one monthly rate for HBO, Cinemax, etc., no one has offered me a discounted rate on Netflix, Hulu, etc. as a bundle.

Is this being done somewhere? If not, I suspect it is coming.

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> Other side of the equation is - Production of Content has become cheap I spend a lot of time in both production and post production. The price for good content has certianly decreased but it most certianly hasn't become any definition of cheap. Consumers want very hogh quality content these days and that only comes with experienced staff, you can use cheaper gear. > Distribution has become free with global reach Ev…

Porn is free. They are running the same services. They have proved global distribution is possible. Pretty much like Youtube and Tiktok. Media and Entertainment sector has all kinds of bizarre economics cause it's used by the Telcos(check what AT&T and Comcast own in ME sector), the Tech firms (google/youtube, amazon, netflix, apple) to play empire defense and market capture games. Demand is not decided by the consum…

> Porn is free

Open an incognito tab, open what is the very first thing on the page after the age disclaimer.

Let me give you a hint, "Meet sexy single in your area" isn't a meme for nothing. Porn is far from free, it is paid for by advertising, and from my recollection they are the ones that revolutionised the ad industry by bringing in pre-roll ads.

Regardless, if video distribution is free at a global scale, then go do it. Create a video hosting service with global scale with any video, not even ones people want to watch, create one that serves 40 views a month. Then come back with an income statement that proves your point.

That is the point I'm trying to make, you claim it's free purely because you don't know what the actual cost is.

I'm not saying the current providers are doing the correct thing. I end up sailing the 7 seas far more than I like purely because I don't even know which one of the 40 services even have the series I want to watch. You know what does?

Ps:

The majority of porn content is user submitted, you knoe we already have a free video service that does the same thing as porn, it's called YouTube.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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You hope they go out of business because they bought the rights to some podcasts?

The OP was annoyed they bought a podcast they liked and then put it behind a UI/UX which is hard to use. Presumably if Spotify went out of business Rogan would end up back on the open market. Turns out the new deal lets Rogan put shows back on YouTube so it doesn't matter. BTW, I agree about the Spotify UI. I never liked it and was a GPM user until they destroyed it by pushing me to YTM. Now I use AM, since if I'm go…

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