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Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by matwood »

jpsouth wrote: post #656
crashingintoyou wrote: post #587

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been hoping to Spotify to go out of business since they went and took Rogan's podcast and a few others as Spotify-exclusive. Not always a Rogan fan, but he's occasionally had some interesting guests. However the Spotify experience was so bad I abandoned podcasts that required me to use their client. (Suppose I should think of dialing back my Spotify hate a little now that apparently in the renewal they're no lon…

You hope they go out of business because they bought the rights to some podcasts?

The OP was annoyed they bought a podcast they liked and then put it behind a UI/UX which is hard to use. Presumably if Spotify went out of business Rogan would end up back on the open market. Turns out the new deal lets Rogan put shows back on YouTube so it doesn't matter.

BTW, I agree about the Spotify UI. I never liked it and was a GPM user until they destroyed it by pushing me to YTM. Now I use AM, since if I'm going to tolerate a poor UI it might as well work well with all my devices.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by papruapap »

snvzz wrote: post #384
xpl wrote: post #341

Piracy isn't difficult to compete against. You just need to provide a service at least as usable as piracy. I won't mind paying a couple of bucks, I just need a usable service which: 1. Doesn't restrict what content I can watch from which country and doesn't prevent me from using VPN. This is outright ridiculous and I deeply hate streaming services just for that. 2. Has all the content from multiple studios, not just…

3. lets me watch 4k streams on my haiku, aros, openbsd systems. Artificial DRM-based restrictions ultimately mean not getting the quality you pay for. Netflix specifically becomes 720p garbage. But I can just rely on less official sources. In this case I get a DRM-free, very high quality file that plays everywhere, forever.

Netflix app on my TV crashed when I plugged-in my usb headset :/

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by Terretta »

sharkjacobs wrote: post #408
PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

> the services have taken the piss? Which services do you mean? Netflix? Or do you mean the other 7 services, which didn’t exist back then. There was a brief window of time when streaming was able to compete with piracy (free) and it’s when there was just one streaming service. Netflix was able to have a robust (if not comprehensive) catalogue (because it had no competitors), and was dedicated to user experience (bec…

>> the services have taken the piss?

> Which services do you mean?

As a pioneer of entitlement-based streaming video who believed in the tech, I pay for every streaming service that remains ad free and is available a la carte as an add-on "channel" to TV+, Hulu, or Prime.

I'm down from most all of them, to just a handful.

Our consulting to content and distribution firms in the 2000s told them they had to do five things to compete:

- eliminate anxiety of appointment viewing

- eliminate anxiety of acquiring media (costs)

- eliminate anxiety of ownership (durability)

- eliminate anxiety of compatibility (devices)

- eliminate anxiety of availability (when, where)

Netflix is undoing several of these. They're adding cost of viewing ads, removing promise of working on all devices, and more aggressively removing deep content.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by offices »

MichaelMug wrote: post #523
PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

I read this same thing a lot on Reddit and HN. It surprising to me on HN because I would assume most people on here are making good money. For my family here is the monthly spend with taxes for my area included: HBO Max $ 13.53 Hulu $ 7.21 Disney+ $ 0.18 (w/ Hulu) Paramount+ w/ Showtime $ 10.82 Apple TV+ $ 10.81 AMC+ $ 7.56 Amazon Prime $12.53 $62.64/month. Now, about 20 years ago in 2004 my parents had basic cable a…

Beyond the Dril-candles-tweet economics already discussed: I already own a PC that could transcode if that was something I actually wanted to do.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by silon42 »

andrepd wrote: post #676
y7 wrote: post #422

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Amazon Prime Video is even worse, on Linux they only serve 480p. Any pirated file is much better quality.

Lmao at paying for 2006-youtube quality video.

Still better than using some other OS.

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Post by ta1243 »

jowea wrote: post #131
skeaker wrote: post #23

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Yep. This video is played for laughs but I was shocked to learn how much of it was true and not just satire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvhv7bgmz64 Content being fragmented and constantly coming and going is a massive problem for users. Netflix used to be the go-to to find just about any given show or film, but has become a mystery box where the contents change on a near-daily basis. Piracy is reliable and simpl…

The part about Titanic being split is a joke, right? Right?

Yes, based in fact. Titanic was a major VHS release which was too long at the time to go onto one VHS tape*

Justwatch tells me Titanic is on Disney (in my region), and available to rent or buy from half a dozen stores.

Looking at justwatch US, it seems that US streaming even more fragmented than the UK, but it's available to stream in a few places.

All will give you the full movie

* in the US I assume, I'm sure I had it a single tape in the UK

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by lawgimenez »

machomaster wrote: post #571
rekoil wrote: post #529

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I personally find that Spotifys offline content has worked reliably over the years. You just gotta remember that when you get a new device you have to go to library and click download and then leave Spotify open for a few hours. Spotify is also a great example of how to beat piracy. I haven't downloaded an mp3 file since I got a Spotify Premium account in 2007. OK that's probably a slight overstatement, but it's near…

One of Spotify's biggest problems is their terrible UI, lacking even the basic functionality. I don't understand how they haven't been able do the bare minimum for 15 years now.

My most hated Spotify feature is the address confirmation of all your family members (family plan). I entered our new home address and it wasn’t even there. My parents are on the other side of the world, Spotify should understand that families are not residing always in the same area.

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Post by Loughla »

snvzz wrote: post #384
xpl wrote: post #341

Piracy isn't difficult to compete against. You just need to provide a service at least as usable as piracy. I won't mind paying a couple of bucks, I just need a usable service which: 1. Doesn't restrict what content I can watch from which country and doesn't prevent me from using VPN. This is outright ridiculous and I deeply hate streaming services just for that. 2. Has all the content from multiple studios, not just…

3. lets me watch 4k streams on my haiku, aros, openbsd systems. Artificial DRM-based restrictions ultimately mean not getting the quality you pay for. Netflix specifically becomes 720p garbage. But I can just rely on less official sources. In this case I get a DRM-free, very high quality file that plays everywhere, forever.

>720p garbage

I'm genuinely concerned there's something wrong with my eyes. 720p looks fine, I think? Is there that huge of a difference?

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by lnxg33k1 »

bawolff wrote: post #10

> Piracy also threatens to damage our business, as its fundamental proposition to consumers is so compelling and difficult to compete against: virtually all content for free,” Netflix writes. People emphasize the "free" part, but it really is the "all content" part that makes piracy wins. Especially if you are not in the USA, often specific content isn't available at any price. Even if it is, its split across 5 billi…

I think they emphasised the piracy is free part because otherwise the solution would be to fix their services, while if they point to piracy is compelling because is free and not because it doesn’t frustrate people, then the solution is in the hand of regulators

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Post by ta1243 »

atomicnumber3 wrote: post #414
bawolff wrote: post #10

> Piracy also threatens to damage our business, as its fundamental proposition to consumers is so compelling and difficult to compete against: virtually all content for free,” Netflix writes. People emphasize the "free" part, but it really is the "all content" part that makes piracy wins. Especially if you are not in the USA, often specific content isn't available at any price. Even if it is, its split across 5 billi…

Furthermore, some content that's available overseas is also censored in US releases. I'm sure your mind just jumped to interesting places, but let me bring you back by saying one of the worst offenders here is Bluey. A literal kids show; for kids. In Australia! It's not like it's even some huge cultural norm difference like Japan vs America, it's Australia! There's an episode that's not shown on D+ at all where the d…

That type of censorship has always been a thing. Back in January 1992, the TNG episode "The High Ground" was not broadcast in the UK due to a line about how terrorists can win at their goals. Later broadcasts edited out the line, it wasn't until 2006 that you could see the unedited version.
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