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Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by n3storm »

izacus wrote: post #495
PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

Yeah, also pirated content has: - 4K HDR video, not whatever the heck the buggy client delivers. - Atmos/TrueHD audio track that actually works, not whatever the broken app delivers (I'm looking at you Sky and rest of the ilk that still deliver HBO content with stereo). - Subtitles for ALL the languages, not just one or two. And those languages don't disappear when I go on a vacation, leaving me stuck with german aud…

Sky does not even work on firefox on linux. My tv setup is not smart is xfcestupid

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Post by avidiax »

shafyy wrote: post #616
PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

What is the best way to pirate tv shows these days? Asking for a friend, of course.

VPN + public torrents. Private trackers have benefits but also annoyances, like impossible to maintain ratios and minimum seeding times.

Direct download (DDL) + a download manager or debride service.

Usenet is actually still a thing and is supposedly ridiculously fast and hassle free, once you have it set up.

IRC still exists but you need connections or something to trade.

There are IPTV services that also provide on demand streaming, i.e. pay for Plex.

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Post by offices »

js2 wrote: post #315
ladzoppelin wrote: post #291

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No its a DRM issue, its why I run a hidden 25 foot HDMI from my computer to my TV as some broadcasts require the security inside the HDMI cable itself. (I could be wrong on this one but Widevine DRM handles this process I think)

There is no security inside the HDMI cable itself. It's an HDCP negotiation between the source and the sink which occurs over an i2c serial bus along the pair of DDC pins. You may be able to get away with just an HDMI dummy plug: https://www.amazon.com/4K-HDMI-Dummy-Plug-3840x2160/dp/B07FB... I'm not sure if these dummy plugs handle HDCP. If not you can use one in combination with this splitter: https://www.amazon.co…

If the DRM means you need a workaround, it's a DRM issue.

Re: Netflix: Piracy is difficult to compete against and growing rapidly

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Post by amelius »

PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

Yes, they should look at Spotify, where all the labels are available under one service.

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Post by rekoil »

mi_z wrote: post #690
rekoil wrote: post #529

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally find that Spotifys offline content has worked reliably over the years. You just gotta remember that when you get a new device you have to go to library and click download and then leave Spotify open for a few hours. Spotify is also a great example of how to beat piracy. I haven't downloaded an mp3 file since I got a Spotify Premium account in 2007. OK that's probably a slight overstatement, but it's near…

Spotify isn't a great example because barely anyone makes money with it. It only works because the musicians are exploited to the max. The reason this won't happen with film and TV is because of unionisation. Why not just buy discs? People keep repeating that discs are dying but so many releases are coming out there is way more than I can buy.

Yeah I know discs still exist for now, I'm talking about when they suddenly don't anymore. Hopefully that's far far into the future.

And as for Spotify exploiting artists, I don't know how accurate this[1] is, but if it is then it seems pretty fair to me? Maybe slightly on the lower end of what I had expected, but not that far off.

If you have a million monthly listeners (and today you have access to over 574M monthly active users[2] via Spotify) then you're making $5,000/month in static income, meaning you have zero hours of work and still have enough to live on (depending on the size of the band I guess).

The notion that artists (or movie stars for that matter) should be making 10x that or more is a little ridiculous if you ask me.

1: https://purecalculators.com/spotify-money-calculator

2: https://www.statista.com/statistics/367739/spotify-global-ma...

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Post by offices »

patrickaljord wrote: post #67
PlutoIsAPlanet wrote: post #9

Streaming became popular because it was easier than piracy and better than TV (watch anywhere, on demand, pickup where you left off etc). Streaming is no longer easier than piracy, why pay for 8 different services and have to waste your time figuring out whats on what when you can just have one service for free, even if its illegal, and have it all under one roof. The services have taken the piss and now they'll get…

I was paying for Netflix 10 years ago in France for a short while, wanted some English subtitles for my wife for some US shows but there were only subtitles in French so had to download the same show elsewhere if you know what I'm saying... with English subtitles readily available. I also remember watching some shows like the first two seasons but then only to find out the third season was licensed by another streami…

>I also remember watching some shows like the first two seasons but then only to find out the third season was licensed by another streaming service lol.

Fun!

https://www.pokemon.com/us/animation/where-to-watch-pokemon-...

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Post by offices »

jiggawatts wrote: post #482
patrickaljord wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was paying for Netflix 10 years ago in France for a short while, wanted some English subtitles for my wife for some US shows but there were only subtitles in French so had to download the same show elsewhere if you know what I'm saying... with English subtitles readily available. I also remember watching some shows like the first two seasons but then only to find out the third season was licensed by another streami…

I go on this rant regularly, and apparently Netflix staff never visit Hacker News, or just don't care. Interestingly, it took quite a bit of dev effort to make their subtitles this bad. They had to figure out which subset of languages to show in each region, for example. I'm sure these decisions are made by the same team that refuses to show English subtitles, and instead always uses English for the hearing impaired.…

By not hiring junior devs, they're missing out on a large chunk of those of us who spend their workday raging at technology on HN.

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Post by niloc132 »

atomicnumber3 wrote: post #414
bawolff wrote: post #10

> Piracy also threatens to damage our business, as its fundamental proposition to consumers is so compelling and difficult to compete against: virtually all content for free,” Netflix writes. People emphasize the "free" part, but it really is the "all content" part that makes piracy wins. Especially if you are not in the USA, often specific content isn't available at any price. Even if it is, its split across 5 billi…

Furthermore, some content that's available overseas is also censored in US releases. I'm sure your mind just jumped to interesting places, but let me bring you back by saying one of the worst offenders here is Bluey. A literal kids show; for kids. In Australia! It's not like it's even some huge cultural norm difference like Japan vs America, it's Australia! There's an episode that's not shown on D+ at all where the d…

Note that the neighbor’s dad does eventually get a name, as he assists as a birthday party and then grumbles about how they aren’t doing it correctly.

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Post by elijaht »

mi_z wrote: post #690
rekoil wrote: post #529

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I personally find that Spotifys offline content has worked reliably over the years. You just gotta remember that when you get a new device you have to go to library and click download and then leave Spotify open for a few hours. Spotify is also a great example of how to beat piracy. I haven't downloaded an mp3 file since I got a Spotify Premium account in 2007. OK that's probably a slight overstatement, but it's near…

Spotify isn't a great example because barely anyone makes money with it. It only works because the musicians are exploited to the max. The reason this won't happen with film and TV is because of unionisation. Why not just buy discs? People keep repeating that discs are dying but so many releases are coming out there is way more than I can buy.

> People keep repeating that discs are dying but so many releases are coming out there is way more than I can buy.

That’s the issue I think. I listened to music from ~1000 albums last year. At $10 a pop that’s $10k which is just not possible. Spotify is really the only way that listening like that is enabled.

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Post by rekoil »

Robin_Message wrote: post #588
rrr_oh_man wrote: post #572

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Like what?

My three biggest pet peeves are: - You can't turn your queue into a playlist (and you can't see previous queue as part of the queue, only as limited history.) - Clicking a song or album sometimes clears your queue and starts playing that instead (I know there is a logic to it, but a mistake or mis-click is easy). - There is no shortcut to add to queue, just long press then find the menu item. It's possible everyone e…

Yeah I really wish there was a global history of my plays that I could look at.
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